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Yomegami Since: Jan, 2011
#144976: Jun 25th 2016 at 8:42:33 PM

I like Zard Y's design more, but that isn't to say I dislike Zard X at all. It's really fun to use, and that's all I want out of a Mega Evolution.

As for Pokemon whose type I'd change...I can't think of any that haven't already been mentioned. I'd probably make Goodra a Dragon/Poison type and give it Regenerator, though.

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#144977: Jun 25th 2016 at 8:54:48 PM

Yeah, Zard X's design is a bit chuuni, but we can use a few mons like that. I feel like Zard Y's design looks better on paper than in-game, though

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#144978: Jun 25th 2016 at 8:54:57 PM

Topic of type changes:

Yanmega. Bug / Dragon. Dragonfly!

Sounds like a reasonable type change, right?

edited 25th Jun '16 9:02:22 PM by Smasher

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#144979: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:14:48 PM

Not really since that pun only works in English, and is a pun.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#144980: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:15:26 PM

They've used English puns internationally before, though.

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#144981: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:19:52 PM

@ Mega Zard discussion: I don't think there should be two, but at least the two we got are both pretty cool.

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#144982: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:20:38 PM

They also generally don't decide a type for the sake of a pun, though.

Aside from Mega Ampharos.

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#144983: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:22:11 PM

If the pun is Dragonfly shouldn't it be Dragon/Flying?

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#144984: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:23:14 PM

We already have five of those though.

edited 25th Jun '16 9:25:17 PM by Classifiedzerogoki

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#144986: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:31:14 PM

Speaking of Mega Charizard, which Mewtwo form do you preferred? Is it X or Y?

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#144987: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:32:54 PM

I prefer Y. It can be a mixed attacker without wasting EV on Attack.

edited 25th Jun '16 9:33:32 PM by flameboy21th

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#144988: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:33:26 PM

You see, Yanmega is a bug, and dragonflies are bugs. Yanmega being part of the Gen 4 evolutionary line expansion trend, hence Game Freak missed an opportunity for a type pun.

But a Bug/Dragon dragonfly later on probably will happen eventually.

And I prefer Mewtwo X to use, but I like Y's look more.

edited 25th Jun '16 9:34:28 PM by Smasher

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#144989: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:38:25 PM

Flygon has Dragon typing. Game Freak did the Dragonfly=Dragon before.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#144990: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:39:59 PM

It's name is even the same internationally, so... yeah. There you go. Fly + dragon. Two English words.

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#144991: Jun 25th 2016 at 9:48:02 PM

Except Flygon isn't a dragonfly.

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#144992: Jun 25th 2016 at 10:18:19 PM

I like Megazard X over Y. Megazard Y follows the dumb Mega trend of "same but bigger with frills and spikes!" Megazard X visually looks more distinct, and its colors are badass.

Manetric still wins worst mega design though.

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#144993: Jun 25th 2016 at 10:20:50 PM

Yeah, I like Mega Charizard X better too.

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#144994: Jun 25th 2016 at 11:17:13 PM

Whereas I feel like Mega Zard Y is a much more natural extension on Charizard's concepts both mechanically and visually.

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#144995: Jun 25th 2016 at 11:22:00 PM

I like both Zards because of the fusion of concept and function. Y seems like an extension of what Charizard is. Master of the sky and of the sun. That's represented by keeping the same typing, general stat spread, and sun related abilities. X however is taking Charizard in a new direction. It's more grounded, more edgy yes, but it is a design that focus on the fire and draconic elements more than Y's sky elements. It feels like it's supposed to be a departure from what it once was, the Politoed to Y's Poliwrath so to speak (I appreciate the irony of that simile).

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#144996: Jun 25th 2016 at 11:28:12 PM

I always thought that it could be viewed that Charizard Y is the logical conclusion to Charizard's Flying typing, whereas Charizard X is the logical conclusion to its Fire typing.

Then I realized that Charizard Y hits like a hydrogen bomb with Fire Blast and has no usable Flying type STAB to speak of.

So.... yeah, I agree with Pulse.

edited 25th Jun '16 11:28:49 PM by BaconManiac5000

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#144997: Jun 25th 2016 at 11:28:51 PM

I'm firmly in the camp of preferring Megazard X.

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#144998: Jun 25th 2016 at 11:57:35 PM

Isn't Air Slash usable enough?

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#144999: Jun 26th 2016 at 12:01:47 AM

Air Slash is pretty piss weak for a STAB.

Generally, for a Glass Cannon like Zard Y, you want as high-powered moves as possible to score as many OHK Os as possible before you get K Od yourself. You want something at least 90 BP on a pokemon like Zard Y and Air Slash falls far short of that.

Plus, Air Slash doesn't hit much for super-effective damage that Fire Blast doesn't.

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#145000: Jun 26th 2016 at 1:41:02 AM

Didn't know you were talking exclusive to competitive battles rather than both, my bad.


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