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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#143626: May 29th 2016 at 11:11:04 PM

Too friggin' late, pal.

I can get behind not every type having full distribution of every fancy effect and all, but I see no reason for their to not be staple, limited-or-no-effect moves for every type.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#143627: May 29th 2016 at 11:15:46 PM

Because why use Hurricane when you can just use Flying!Ice Beam?

Why use Focus Blast when you can use Fighting!Flamethrower?

You could argue it's variety for the sake of variety, but sometimes a game needs that in order to be more entertaining than it would be otherwise.

edited 29th May '16 11:16:25 PM by Hashil

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Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#143629: May 29th 2016 at 11:27:53 PM

Why use Fire Blast when Flamethrower exists? Oh wait, people still use Fire Blast. [lol]

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#143630: May 29th 2016 at 11:33:52 PM

Would an ability that calls Trick Room on switch-in be too horribly broken?

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#143631: May 29th 2016 at 11:34:56 PM

Only in a handful of cases.

If something learns Flamethrower they'll probably just teach it Flamethrower unless they absolutely need the extra fire power.

Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#143632: May 29th 2016 at 11:35:34 PM

[up][up] Too OP for OU, perhaps... but I can imagine an uber or mythical event legend having that kind of trick room on switch-in ability.

[up] Yeah, I guess. Fire Blast or Overheat are great for mixed sweepers who are primarily physical; like Infernape or some Salamence Builds.

edited 29th May '16 11:38:56 PM by Malco

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#143634: May 29th 2016 at 11:41:28 PM

Fire Blast is a much more common STAB move on sweepers than Flamethrower is.

The only thing I see Flamethrower used on over Fire Blast is if it's a coverage move, or if it's a STAB for a bulky attacker.

At least, that's what I see from my hours of browsing the smogon strategy dex.

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#143635: May 29th 2016 at 11:48:45 PM

I usually have fire blast on clefable over flamethrower. That extra punch helps.

Yomegami Since: Jan, 2011
#143636: May 29th 2016 at 11:53:24 PM

It's worth nothing Fire Blast has higher accuracy than Blizzard or Thunder (85 compared to 70), which plays no small part in why it's seen more often.

Granted, I'm still someone who'd rather have accurate 80-90 BP special Flying/Fighting moves rather than having to put up with Hurricane's or Focus Blast's abysmal accuracy just because of "variety."

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#143637: May 29th 2016 at 11:54:25 PM

Blizzard and Thunder have conditions that make them accurate.

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#143638: May 29th 2016 at 11:55:28 PM

[up][up]That.

There is no good reason why there shouldn't be those kinds of moves.

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Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#143639: May 29th 2016 at 11:58:15 PM

Yo, Drill Peck exists, but Game Freak seems to have been forgetting to distribute it just like Power Gem. [lol]

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#143640: May 30th 2016 at 12:00:21 AM

Because why use Hurricane when you can just use Flying!Ice Beam?
Why use special Flying types when other special attackers get STAB? The net result of this stuff makes the game less diverse by limiting choices to tinier and tinier handfuls of things that actually learn useful moves because the rest are either lacking in stability and/or are forced to rely on gimmicks.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#143641: May 30th 2016 at 12:07:05 AM

I kind of wish that Aeroblast wasn't a signature move.

Lugia can't even use it all that well.

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morenohijazo Since: Nov, 2009
#143642: May 30th 2016 at 2:54:34 AM

Apparently people tend to give Mewtwo Focus Blast despite being one of the few Pokémons who has access to Aura Sphere. So yeah, people would still use Focus Blast even with a Fighting Flamethrower.

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#143643: May 30th 2016 at 4:42:59 AM

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#143644: May 30th 2016 at 4:52:06 AM

I'm pretty certain that they were trying to set up against a weakened opponent (that couldn't switch out), but they also clearly didn't quite understand how the game works

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#143645: May 30th 2016 at 10:19:15 AM

Welp...

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#143646: May 30th 2016 at 11:02:50 AM

[up][up][up][up]Aura Sphere was used quite a bit more over Focus Blast in Gen V, then it got nerfed to 80 BP instead of 90 BP, and since it loses out on many important K Os now, they have no choice but to use Focus Miss.

edited 30th May '16 11:04:16 AM by BaconManiac5000

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#143647: May 30th 2016 at 12:52:36 PM

Hey folks, What are some moves ideas or variations that you all would like to see?
There… are several. Then there's also abilities… some are probably over-powered. Or silly. Or both.
    Moves 
  • Moves that work like Forest's Curse or Trick or Treat, for the other types.
  • Fairy-type Swift (maybe named "Whimsical Star").
  • Ice and Electric-type variations of Flare Blitz (if those don't exist yet).
  • Something that works like Slash and Drain Punch combined.
  • A move that changes type based on the type of day.
  • A move that changes only its type based on the location.
  • A variation of Slash that is super-effective against Dragon-type Pokémon (even if the move itself is, say, Steel-type).
  • A move that deals low damage to the target, with additional damage being dealt two turns later.
  • A move that drains a small amount of PP (from a random move) to heal the user slightly.
  • A move that removes Fairy-types' immunity to Dragon for a duration.
  • A move that switches the abilities of the user and the target.
  • More dual-typed moves.
  • A thunderstorm weather move.
  • A move that is super-effective against Fire, Ground, Flying and Water
  • A move that is super-effective against Pokémon of the same type as the user
  • Poison-type move that can damage Steel-types
  • A Fighting-type move named "Suplex"
  • A Steel-type move that heals the user ("Repair"?)
  • A stronger Leech Life variation?
  • A move that stops the effects of moves like Electric Terrain
  • Ice and Fire-type variations of Electric Terrain
  • A move that deals double damage if the user took super-effective damage, but half damage if the user took not-very-effective damage
  • A move that causes battles in the overworld (and/or increases catch rate in battle)
  • A move that acts like Repel in the overworld (and/or have a chance to cause the target to flee)
  • A Fire-type move that's super-effective against Water-types
  • A move that's super-effective on all types
  • A Grass-type variation of Bonemerang (?)
    Abilities 
  • An ability that restores the HP of opposing Pokémon that are sleeping.
  • A few variations of Heatproof
  • An ability that changes the type(s) of the Pokémon every turn.
  • Abilities for each type that work like Overgrow, Blaze, etc.
  • Abilities for each type that work like Fairy Aura and Dark Aura
  • An ability that has light-based moves (like Flash) deal damage ("Light-Sensitive"?).
  • An ability that prevents the owner from attacking Pokémon that can't fight back (due to paralysis or sleep, for example); probably call it "Honor" or something.
  • An ability that deals more damage to opponents who can't defend themselves
  • Ice-type variations of abilities like Motor Drive or Water Absorb.
  • Abilities like Gale Wings, for other types
  • Abilities that raise or lower the Attack/Special Attack stat(s) if the owner is battling a Pokémon of lower/higher level
  • An ability that raises the power of sound-based moves
  • An ability that makes the user permanently confused, but increases evasion.
  • A few abilities from Pokémon Conquest

edited 30th May '16 2:29:39 PM by ShaneBaneNeumann

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she/her
#143648: May 30th 2016 at 1:03:27 PM

Electric-type variation of Flare Blitz

There already is one, even if it's Pikachu's signature move.

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#143649: May 30th 2016 at 1:33:32 PM

A move that changes type based on location

Nature Power

A move that switches the abilities of the user and target

Skill Swap

A move that causes battles in the overworld (and/or increases catch rate in battle)

Sweet Scent

An ability that changes the type(s) of the Pokémon every turn.

Protean and Color Change have an effect like this, though it's not intrinsically tied to turns.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#143650: May 30th 2016 at 1:55:36 PM

Morning Sun and Moonlight used to be affected by time of day, but since Gen 3 didn't have proper day/night changes they dropped it and probably forgot to add the changes back in.


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