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Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#62076: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:15:02 PM

@Yamii Hey, I'd agree. It's not like we need new Gens either.

Holy crap, the Demon is awesome. Super hyped for BW2 now.

@Chariot No, it's completely true. There's absolutely no need for them.

edited 2nd Aug '12 8:15:13 PM by Saiga

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#62077: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:16:17 PM

People want them and the originals are unavailable. That is need enough as far as I am concerned.

...Wait what Demon?

edited 2nd Aug '12 8:16:45 PM by Chariot

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#62078: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:16:31 PM

Saiga: But there is a definite want for them.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#62079: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:18:04 PM

wild mass guessThe Demon is Wariowild mass guess

Anyway, I do like the idea of being able to customize your trainer (Though I do think that's more suited to a theoretical Stadium 3. Battle Revolution had fairly decent customization, more detail due to 3D models, AND the ability to show off your creation in online battles.). I can't say I like the idea of non-Gym story progression though.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#62080: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:18:19 PM

[up][up][up] That's not need.

[up][up] I'm not disputing that. I wouldn't mind them myself, although I'm not fond of the remake cycle continuing perpetually.

edited 2nd Aug '12 8:18:51 PM by Saiga

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#62081: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:19:35 PM

Well, in my mind, significant desire from the fanbase is reason enough.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#62082: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:19:42 PM

[up]x3

You would still be able to advance via Gym. You would just have other options to advance as well like say Contest or Pokeathelon.

edited 2nd Aug '12 8:22:29 PM by Chariot

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#62083: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:20:03 PM

Yeah, I understood, I just felt it would break the story in two.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#62084: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:20:45 PM

I do not understand what you mean. Explain please?

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#62085: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:21:33 PM

I recognize that they could use the Dream World and events to fill in those missing spots in the Dex, but that sounds kinda lame to me. (That, and to my understanding DW-wise there are still some Pokemon that lack sprites.)

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#62086: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:22:21 PM

Being able to progress via non-battling just feels like it defeats the point of the game. How do you get badges and the like, or experience to face the E4 with? Not to mention the tendency for story events to be linked to the gym challenge, such as after you clear Lenora's or Brycen's gym.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#62087: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:22:55 PM

[up] Agreed 100%.

The Gyms are sort of like bosses, going around them would basically just be like advancing the game without having to take on the bosses.

edited 2nd Aug '12 8:23:39 PM by Saiga

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#62088: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:25:20 PM

[up]x2

Well if you choose not to advance via Gym then instead they could do something similar to the Grand Festival from the anime for people who decide to advance via Contest or what have you. And maybe they could have said events be triggered in some other way.

edited 2nd Aug '12 8:25:35 PM by Chariot

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#62089: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:28:57 PM

And fans already have the originals why would they buy it again when what they want are remakes?

Why would you want a remake when you already have the game?

edited 2nd Aug '12 8:29:17 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#62090: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:30:02 PM

[up] I didn't even try to understand that logic.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#62091: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:31:19 PM

[up]Mine or Chariot's?

edited 2nd Aug '12 8:31:34 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#62092: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:31:20 PM

Because remakes tend to add onto the original. And because some people like owning both. This is not a hard concept to understand.

>Hers

I am a guy.

edited 2nd Aug '12 8:32:27 PM by Chariot

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#62093: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:31:23 PM

[up][up][up][up]Because they add lots of new stuff, it's fun to play through the old story with new, modern touch-ups, it feels more complete and up-to-date, I could go on.

edited 2nd Aug '12 8:31:41 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#62094: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:33:03 PM

Chariot's. We were talking about the games being hard to obtain making remakes necessary, and that went off on a completely unrelated tangent. Of course I wasn't talking about people who already own the game when I said to buy the originals.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#62095: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:33:15 PM

[up][up][up]Sorry

I don't see how making the 3makes is money grubbing if it's what the fans are asking for. Sure, they make a lot of money off of it, but we're giving them that money willingly.

Exactly.

edited 2nd Aug '12 8:34:40 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#62096: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:35:57 PM

Not the first time people have mistaken me for a girl on here. Doubt it will be the last.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#62097: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:38:29 PM

[up]Well, it'd be less confusing if people didn't pick avatars of the opposite gender to their real ones.tongue

Maybe Tv Tropes needs to add Gender Symbols, as in those ones next to Pokemon names (I don't know what they are called, hence the Pokemon reference).

edited 2nd Aug '12 8:39:00 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#62098: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:40:07 PM

Avatar association.

...I wonder if I'm seen as a hideous tentacled shellfish.

Anyway, Gamefreak's goal is to make money, like any company, but they're pretty good at pandering to the fans and doing things that have no real financial gain for them, like adding in new moves that only really apply to the metagame, putting more focus on the story, ect. At this point nothing they do is really going to make them MORE money than they would make without new stuff since the series is already such a cash cow, but it is nice they pander to the fans a little.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#62099: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:42:27 PM

They add metagame moves for their tournaments, which are held to promote more people playing the game with each other and making it more popular.

So it pretty much is a money thing.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#62100: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:44:51 PM

Yeah, but nobody is going to say "Oh, hey! They added in [insert move here]! Insta-buy!" The metagamers will buy the game anyway, if not to just have fun with the new game, than to take advantage of new Pokemon at least. Moves aren't marketed, and so the more metagame-oriented moves exist solely to be a nice little addition.

Except when they're named Stealth Rock and ruin the metagame.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!

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