League of Legends

You really have to remove "suicides" from your list of strategies.

There is little to no situation where it won't be received as outright trolling. Even as Karthus you would sprinkle salts on your teammates in industrial quantities.

Olaf, Hecarim and Tahm also have kits that encourage reckless fighting, and I hate to break to you but if you die with any of those without getting anything in return, you will get flamed. There's tons of ways that you dying is a handicap to your team that we shouldn't even have to spell it out.

Especially now that if somehow you DO get a kill, you dying uselessly gives gold TO THE ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM.

This is Nasus' Japanese voice. Sounds like Joji Nakata...?

@Suiciding: There used to be the Proxy Singed strategy, which involved suiciding top lane until you were worthless, but they nerfed it eventually.

Proxy Singed still exists, but involves less dying and more warding and running away.

And it can work really well if you know what you are doing. It doesn't always work, but when it does it can really disrupt the enemy team.

A good karthus will deal a shitton of damage with his defile. but in laning phase, a great karthus is going to deal a massive amount of harass via his spammable Q. Sinceh is R is an unavoidable thing for the vast majority of champs it is also great to save for when your allies engage and the enemy is escaping with but a sliver of health.

The "walk in and fuck the police" strat is more for teamfights, but even then I prefer to weaken the targets before yoloing in.

P.S: I love Braum and Ziggs.

edited 27th Nov '15 9:23:44 AM by Aszur

In other news:

Hecarim is losing his unit collision ignore. Despite, you know. Creep blocking being at it's worst now more than ever.

Hecarim HAS to have the collision ignore. His model is FUCKHUGE. Like, how are you supposed to control him without hitting everything with his massive size? He's designed around chasing, and he can't do that with the state of Creep blocking & Pathing being as atrocious as it is right now.

Feels like an step backwards to me. What good is an charge when you can't break through an herd of minions with it?

Exactly, this nerf is completely mutilating...good I always hated Hecarim anyway.

so it's not just me sucking, minions really are OP right now, ok. what'd they change to make minion blocking so goddamn terrible?

Well the good news is that I like Nocturne

I'm actually kinda liking it because it's, at the very least, consistent. They're going to block you, so don't expect to get past them when they're close together and avoid them when they do that entirely.

Better than when you run through them most of the time CSing until you start dying and then you find you can't...

edited 27th Nov '15 5:11:18 PM by VutherA

Oooh, I noticed something! I was listening to Poppy's new VO lines, and during her joke lines she tells one about 'A Noxian, a Targonian, and a Piltie are robbing a bank. The Noxian says, "Gimme all your gold". The Targonian says, "Gimme all your gemstones"...'

So far as I know, there's never been any indication that Mt. Targon has association with Gemstones, right? Taric/Mt. Targon lore rework, maybe a Taric update just around the corner?

Okay, that might be wishful thinking, but still! I feel like that's definitely a hint of something there.

So Taric would become a Targonian (Spartan) gem warrior? I can root for that.

One line of dialogue isn't that much to work from, but I can see it happen honestly. It wouldn't be the first time an odd character was assimilated in an already existing faction (Karthus, Trundle, Ren, Nasus).

Well it'd definitely be interesting if the lore change for Taric did happen soon. I'd look forward to it. I've found so many of these fascinating.

Nah, Riot only said that Taric's core aspect, Gem Paladin, is staying 100%.

So he probably won't be from Mount Targon.

Leona's a sun paladin from Targon, so it wouldn't really seem all that out of place. Honestly, only Pantheon fits what Targon's theme supposedly is.

So yesterday, I took mid with Nocturne, and Lucian threatned to AFK. So I went bot with Vayne to help farm. Cue the AFK threat and go back to top. But the catch is that Teemo and Morgana was already in top and having 3 in top is anti-meta. But the good news is that we won relatively fast and I got 2 kills and a few assists with an leech/attack speed build. Why are people so selfish when laning in Pv P? There's 3 lanes, 5 players, and YMWV on jungle farming. I would be glad that I had someone helping me out.

EXP has diminishing returns the more people it gets divided on.

Jungling isn't about the jungler getting farm, it is about the top laner getting more EXP.

This is why the 1 top 1 mid two bot and 1 jung meta happened. An experience advantage is often equal or better then gear advantage(except for ADC which is why they get the bot lane.

edited 28th Nov '15 12:18:20 PM by Kiefen

Nocturne is a ganking jungler. You farm a little bit, then proceed to start ganking. Earlier is better, but Nocturne starts to really shine once you get Paranoia.

Farming junglers would have words with you.

edited 28th Nov '15 11:56:08 AM by BlackSunNocturne

Which is why I said "Your Mileage Will Vary on jungling." I just spam Yi's Alpha Strike and Wuju Style for that. Plus, I also use Jinx's Fishbones to clear out their camps too.

x2: I thought everyone needed to farm? And that the jungler is your occasional champion-killing, turret-destroying tag team partner?

edited 28th Nov '15 12:26:10 PM by RabidTanker

Jinx is not a jungler, and if you're playing ADC and clearing a jungler's jungle, you are a scumbag.

No ifs, ands, or buts about it. The Jungler always gets more gold and XP from camps than non-junglers. Taking their camps puts them at a disadvantage.

Yes they are but the main reason for having a jungler is to have overall more EXP on the team and some junglers happen to be fast enough with their clearing that they get comparable farm to regular carries

The constellation you had in your nocturne game would mean you have 3 people top that are under leveled and a 1v2 bot that probably couldn't do shit on its own.

edited 28th Nov '15 1:10:11 PM by Kiefen

x2: I know Jinx is an ADC, but what's stopping me from killing an camp or two if our jungler is laning and I'm on my way to push another lane? Besides, the splash damage works well untill there's one monster left. I'd see if our jungler was out killing animals. But to me, it's resource denial to the enemy if no one else is doing it.

Even I knew that our team's composition sucked, but we still won. I'm not sure how, but we hardly lost any ground.