Oh, bother.
Man, the Kremlin does not make for a good neighbor.
Disgusted, but not surprised
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The Danish government is heading down that route too.
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A good opportunity to offer citizenship by military service to the migrants?
edited 19th Jan '18 4:23:08 AM by TheHandle
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Wouldn't know. It could be dangerous with the rise of the populist Sweden Democrats.
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And to think we (Denmark) could have been having a referendum on being part of PESCO right now if the Prime Minister hadn't been a complete wanker back in 2015.
edited 19th Jan '18 7:09:34 AM by math792d
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
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The French Defense Ministry announced plans to reintroduce conscription. Just broke out.
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Macron pledged to do that before he was elected didn't he? I'd love to know the details of the system. Same old or something new?
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https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20180120_09/
According to him, those between 18-21 will be called up for national service. Critics are calling it a knee jerk reaction to ISIL targeting the French in its soil.
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Army keeps close watch on Chinese troops, infra build-up in Doklam
"They have built infrastructure for it in north Doklam (separated from south Doklam by the Torsa Nala rivulet). But our troops, atop the watershed that dominates Doklam, are much better placed in terms of terrain. We are in a wait-and-watch mode, prepared for any eventuality," an official said.
I think this is a sub rosa recruiting tool - make everyone do boot camp and be exposed to military culture. You're not going to have anyone combat-ready after a month's training, and there's no real chance of France being suddenly put on a war footing.
Yeah, it sounds somewhat similar to a model Slovenia was thinking about. Exposure to military lifestyle and some useful skills in terms of civil defence.
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rollin' on dubs
The problem with conscripts is "conscript syndrome" : if you force values and a culture down someones throat who doesn't want to be there they vomit them out.
All night at the computer, cuz people ain't that great. I keep to myself so I won't be on The First 48
Or they can just leave.
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Conscripts can just leave?
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Ours can. While that does leave them to do national service in a civilian capacity (government agencies, elderly care etc.).
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The French reintroduction is starting, so I don't know what the details are.
But for some countries that use conscription like Singapore and South Korea, you can't entertain that thought since the alternative is serving time in a military prison. IIRC for Singapore, you most likely will have a hard time living there like getting social benefits.
edited 21st Jan '18 2:15:10 AM by Ominae
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Didn't SK and Singapore have a civilian option as well?
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I know that Singapore has the option of doing your conscription service with the police or civil defense force (Basically ambulance/fire department rolled into one).
For SK, exemptions are given to athletes who get medals (Gold in Asian games). There's supplementary personnel like police officers and social workers. The time needed to serve depends.
News of conscripted persons usually don't make the news that much. Emphasis is always on the military side of things.
Otherwise, there are cases of evasion towards celebrities and rich persons who have dual nationality or use fake medical reports.
Some news I remember hearing is using non-military services as a means to get away from when the assessment mentions that the person is fit for medical service... Not sure if I heard it right or I got some details wrong.
edited 21st Jan '18 6:26:38 AM by Ominae
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I'm amused that the Chinese withdrew their troops until the weather was better. ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
Also, this particular conscription is one month long. You can tough out anything for one month and then flip the bird and go back home. The people that this particular net is supposed to "catch" are people who weren't too keen on joining up but who find themselves fitting in during their mandatory month of exposure.
And it's highly unlikely that France won't implement an alternative service for COs. Singapore and South Korea are both countries where the Western concept of civil rights has not 100% penetrated, while France absolutely does recognize such a right.
I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
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Only a month? My boot camp was longer.
Who watches the watchmen?
Yeah, it takes longer to teach Marines anything.
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Russia will begin it's withdrawal from Syria.
Unsurprising given how much of the area is now firmly in Assad's control and how much damage they've done to ISIS. Putin says they'll be back if there are any problems.
Oh really when?
From his speech:
“The task of fighting armed bandits here in Syria, a task that it was essential to solve with the help of extensive use of armed force, has for the most part, been solved and solved spectacularly."
Yep. Syria is totally solved. Also, since he said they'd be keeping their bases in Syria indefinitely I doubt we'll be seeing the end of their involvement there any time soon.
They should have sent a poet.
Sweden prepares public for war amid unease about Russia
The brochure due to be sent to 4.7 million households will inform the public how they can take part in "total defence" during a war and secure water, food and heating.
The booklet, with the working title If Crisis or War Comes, will also give guidance on dealing with threats from cyber attacks, terrorism and climate change.