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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#51626: Jun 22nd 2017 at 9:40:31 AM

I don't think so. It won't work like how End War or GI Joe portrays it.

It's actually not that great of an idea just based on the physics alone.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#51627: Jun 22nd 2017 at 10:36:13 AM

I'm trying to think of what an Air Force Space Corps would do in 2019, and the best I can come up with is merging Space Command with Global Strike Command's missile assets, if that.

Also, I would probably throw my name into the hat for joining the Space Corps because fucking come on.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
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#51628: Jun 22nd 2017 at 11:09:52 AM

And now for some NSFW Mood Whiplash:

NSFW: I think I like this barracks version more than the official Satisfaction video. Yes, it's as NSFW as that one.

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#51629: Jun 22nd 2017 at 11:13:55 AM

Garcon: You get about the same bang from the MOP dropped from operational altitude.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#51630: Jun 22nd 2017 at 11:16:26 AM

IIRC, pretty much the only use the USAF could figure for the Rods was a form of bunker buster. So might as well just use a regular one, rather than haul a 9 ton rod to orbit.

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#51631: Jun 22nd 2017 at 11:47:27 AM

A really damn expensive rod at that. It is was estimated to be a rather expensive cost to loft even one into orbit. Hell one of the think tanks pointed out it would be a lot cheaper to just basically turn a ballistic missile into a kinetic weapon and you get more bang for your buck.

edited 22nd Jun '17 1:35:47 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#51632: Jun 22nd 2017 at 1:31:52 PM

Is it possible that another Space Race might be coming up? I'm pretty sure there are several other militaries that would like to get into space, especially Russia.

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#51633: Jun 22nd 2017 at 1:37:24 PM

It is already here. Not just militaries but several nations all have new space projects.

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#51634: Jun 22nd 2017 at 2:36:43 PM

Wake me when we have true honest to god Aerospace craft duking it out in LEO

:P

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#51635: Jun 22nd 2017 at 4:02:08 PM

Speaking of which.The house armed service committee wants a new branch under the USAF. The Space Corps.

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Silasw Since: Mar, 2011
#51636: Jun 22nd 2017 at 4:36:07 PM

The US military does have its own space shuttle and I don't think we ever get a clear idea of what it gets up to. So who knows what's going on up there.

We're most likely to see serious space stuff once entering orbit becomes easier, right now you jsut can't put rockets up in the kind of numbers that would be needed for a conflict. Once proper runway to orbit space planes come online though that could change.

I'm still waiting for the guys behind Skylon to go public, I wanna invest.

Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#51637: Jun 22nd 2017 at 5:40:57 PM

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-23/australian-spy-planes-to-fly-over-philippines-in-is-fight/8645086

Australian Air Force is sending spy planes to help Filipino special forces locate and take down Maute Group forces alongside ASG and Ansar Khalifa forces despite an attempt by the BIFF to distract them.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#51638: Jun 23rd 2017 at 1:28:39 AM

Putting this here as it's not clear whether it will happen:

Russia Proposes Deploying Kazakhs and Kyrgyz to Syria

Ibrahim Kalin, a spokesman for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, reportedly said Thursday that Russia had proposed deploying troops from Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan to monitor the de-escalation zones in Syria agreed to last month.

RIA Novosti confirmed the report, with the head of the State Duma defense committee, Vladimir Shamanov, saying Russia was in talks with Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan.

In early May, representatives from Iran, Russia, and Turkey agreed to set up four so-called de-escalation zones within which there would be a halting of hostilities between rebel groups and Bashar al-Assad’s forces. The agreement was reached during a summit in Astana, Kazakhstan but neither the Syrian government nor rebel groups signed on.

Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem said in early May, as the agreement was supposedly going into effect, “We do not accept a role for the United Nations or international forces to monitor the agreement.”

The proposal to deploy Central Asian forces makes a (small) degree of sense (if we ignore the questions of capability and experience entirely). Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan are both members of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, a potential vehicle for such a deployment. While the Syrian government, via the foreign minister, rejected the idea of international forces, it may change its tune for Russia’s pet military alliance. As one Syrian opposition leader, Ilyan Masaad, told RBC, the deployment would not happen without Damascus’ consent. He indicated three criteria for picking the source of the monitors: a Muslim country, not involved in the conflict and amenable to Moscow and Damascus’ position. Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan fit that bill.

But neither Astana nor Bishkek has any real experience in the field of monitoring a ceasefire in the midst of a horrendous civil war.

Both countries have participated in UN peacekeeping operations, but in a miniscule capacity. As of May, for example, Kazakhstan has an active contribution of five military experts to UN missions; Kyrgyzstan has 14 police, three military experts, and two troops contributed. Not exactly a deep well of experience on the international stage.

The CSTO — founded in 1992 and comprising Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, and Tajikistan — has never gotten seriously involved in a regional or global security crisis (for example, the Tajik Civil war, the war in Afghanistan, the 2010 ethnic conflict in Kyrgyzstan.)

Even if Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan were to deploy independently, rather than under the auspices of a military bloc, it would be a difficult sell on the homefront. Illustrative here is Kazakhstan’s 2011 flirtation with deploying troops to Afghanistan to join the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF). The proposal — to send four officers on six month rotations to ISAF headquarters in Kabul — died in the Kazakh Senate, however, with Kazakh veterans of the Soviet war in Afghanistan among the loudest protesters against the plan.

We’ll see what shakes out from the discussions between Moscow, Astana, Bishkek and Damascus. Regional analysts will be keeping an eye on Russian inducements — debt write-offs, aid packages, business deals — and how the proposal sounds as it filters through the Kazakh and Kyrgyz publics.

Another Syria summit is expected to take place in Astana in July.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#51639: Jun 23rd 2017 at 2:51:56 AM

Iran must be having manpower issues.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#51640: Jun 23rd 2017 at 3:40:48 AM

http://defence-blog.com/army/kosovo-wants-creation-of-regular-army.html

The Serbia-Kosovo standoff on having a Kosovan Army returns.

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FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#51641: Jun 23rd 2017 at 4:35:41 PM

Given that Assad can't hold even half of his current territory by himself, its no surprise. Also, Iran tries not to use its own people as much as it can, for the sake of morale at home. Most of their fighters are of Afghan or Pakistani origin.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#51642: Jun 23rd 2017 at 7:09:05 PM

Everyone is basically fighting a proxy war ala Metal Gear Solid 4.

Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#51643: Jun 23rd 2017 at 10:56:43 PM

Just without the major involvement of PM Cs.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#51644: Jun 24th 2017 at 1:50:31 AM

[up]

Except Russian ones, the Jihadi one (seriously) and, I shit you not, a non-profit one called Sons of Liberty International.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#51645: Jun 24th 2017 at 1:59:25 AM

Damn yo. Looks like MGS 4 is making this all come true.

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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#51646: Jun 24th 2017 at 2:04:11 AM

Real life being directed by Hideo Kojima makes a lot of sense.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#51647: Jun 24th 2017 at 2:11:27 AM

Except that there aren't any Metal Gears. Not that I want them to show up...

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TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#51648: Jun 24th 2017 at 6:47:33 PM

The F-22 Fighter Jet Restart Is Dead: Study

Sorry, Raptor fans. As many expected, the F-22 restart will never happen.

And the No. 1 reason is cost, according to a new study.

In a classified report submitted to Congress this month, the Air Force estimated it would cost approximately "$50 billion to procure 194 additional F-22s, at an estimated cost of $206 million to $216 million per aircraft," officials told Military.com on Wednesday.

"The total includes an estimate of approximately $9.9 billion for non-recurring start-up costs and $40.4 billion for aircraft procurement costs," the service said.

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#51649: Jun 24th 2017 at 7:12:39 PM

Who the fuck was stupid enough to genuinely think it was going to get restarted?

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