The Walking Dead: The Game

I'm not sure if there's enough to Arvo characterization-wise to make him specifically a protagonist (plus the fandom backlash would probably be immense), but following Mike might be interesting; he always struck me as filling "Paragon" Lee's niche, and maybe they'll want to return to that.

Personally, I think Shel and Becca still have potential, but it seems likely that, if they don't go with Clementine, they'll pick someone whose personality hasn't been firmly established (Season 1 Clem was young and innocent enough to have room to grow and flex, but the same probably can't be said for the adult characters).

edited 9th Mar '15 8:51:10 PM by Robotnik

I'll be very disappointed if Clem isn't the S3 protagonist, alternate endings be damned.

If she is, they'll probably do a massive Time Skip with some variable exposition, since having to produce scenarios that follow up on each ending would likely break the budget.

I may be alone, but I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for Alvin Jr. as the protagonist. Obviously a Time Skip would be necessary.

Unless the dialogue options are 1: Cry, 2: Coo, 3: Burble, and 4: Remain silent.

I can actually see them going down the multiple protagonist route now - its worked pretty well for Game of Thrones and Tales from the Borderlands.

As for A.J... can't see him as a player character, but I can see I'm as being old enough after a time skip to be a character in himself, as opposed to a plot device.

I don't think they'd skip far enough ahead for AJ to be an actual character, instead of a plot device. That would take us significantly farther in the universe's timeline than we've ever been, and things may not be quite the same that far down the road.

We don't know how long the most recent timeskip was; I heard someone claimed it was 2 years in the back of an Issue, but Kirkman denied that in the next one.

edited 12th Mar '15 9:15:12 PM by SilentColossus

A toddler still isn't much more than a plot device (just ask Rickon Stark). To be able to actually contribute, I would say AJ would need to be at least 7. Given that Season Two is already two years after the outbreak, that would put us almost a decade down the timeline. And the comic comes nowhere near that.

How far is the comics timeline?

I think All Out War is maybe two and a half, three years after the outbreak? On the show they just got to Alexandria and it's explicitly been two years. There's a timeskip afterwards, and it apparently isn't clear exactly how far it jumped, but given that Carl isn't suddenly 20, it wasn't anywhere near what would be needed to make AJ more than a prop.

You know, I'm not sure where I was going with this. Never mind.

edited 12th Mar '15 9:13:12 PM by SilentColossus

x11

Now that I think about it, I really wouldn't mind Mike as the protagonist or at least a major character. He's one of the few people who can't die, no matter what. Despite him being in three episodes, we know very little about him, so there's a lot of room for development. Plus, if he was the protagonist, the action scenes would be significantly less preposterous than they were with Clem.

Has there been any Word of God on whether or not Episode 5 of Season 2 was heavily rewritten after Episode 4? Having replayed Season 2, I noticed that there was a ton of foreshadowing of a conflict between Luke and Kenny throughout the season and almost none between Kenny and Jane until Episode 5. I get the feeling that Jane was supposed to be gone for good originally and that the final choice would've been Kenny vs. Luke instead of Kenny vs. Jane.

edited 12th Mar '15 11:03:14 PM by Millardkillmoore

That seems quite likely, but I'm really glad it happened the way it did. If Jane had disappeared for good, I'd have put her in the "wasted character" folder, along with Pete and, to some extent, Walter.

There's a WMG on the relevant page theorizing in part as to why a Luke/Kenny conflict didn't happen, and I agree with it. Luke sleeping with Jane in Episode 4 felt really out-of-character to me, and if it's true that that bit was meant to add some ambiguity to a potential Luke/Kenny conflict, then no wonder they dropped it.

I don't see at all how Luke fooling around with Jane is at all out of character. Sex and sexuality barely gets brought up in the game. On ttop of that, there's no way Luke could have seen the horde and warned them sooner than they saw themselves considerin the oobservation deck is pointed in the opposite direction.

Nah, I don't want to play as Mike. He left a child and a baby to die. He and Bonnie are much, much worse than Arvo. Not good to have a protagonist the player wants dead.

edited 13th Mar '15 10:29:20 AM by SilentColossus

Some news.

I can't see the game being connected to the new TV series in the form of a Super Show - unless something has changed, the game is canon to the comics.

Its most likely just a DLC for Season 2.

edited 13th May '15 8:01:24 PM by SilentColossus

All right, I've never even played any Mario Brothers games, and that was hilarious.

Okay, if you dislike Mike and Bonnie, that's fine, but how are they WORSE then Arvo? Your logic is "they left a child and baby to die", but since Arvo was with them, isn't he guilty of that too?

edited 14th May '15 4:16:18 PM by Cybersbe

Maybe they're not morally worse, but their betrayal certainly came as more of a punch to the gut, since both of them had seemed fairly reliable and trustworthy before. I wasn't surprised that Arvo did what he did. But I never in a million years would have expected it from Mike and Bonnie.

Personally, I can hardly blame them. Kenny had been acting stupid as hell. Furthermore, you can ask Mike to take you with them, and he seems fine with it. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if he would've been willing to wait for Clem to grab AJ, too.

BUT THEN ARVO SHOOTS CLEM IN THE SHOULDER! Call Mike and Bonnie callous traitors for abandoning kids, sure, but there is NO WAY they are worse than a guy who is willing to outright MURDER a child!

Yeah Arvo puts Mike and Bonnie into an ugly situation. If they stayed Kenny would have shot them on the spot

I don't even necessarily blame them for leaving. And yeah, Mike seemed like he might be willing to take Clem along. At least, he was when she caught him. But here's the thing - they were sneaking off, in the middle of the night, with their vehicle and all of their supplies. In this world, that's as good as killing them. I would be feeling for more charitable towards them if they had at least woken Clem up to say "Hey, we're leaving, wanna come?" But they didn't, they just tried to abandon her. And AJ.

edited 14th May '15 4:36:17 PM by RBluefish

Arvo was never a member of the group. So he didn't betray anybody. Besides, Arvo wasn't in the best emotional state; he believes Clementine already murdered his sister (yes, he did not know she was a walker), and spent the last two days being abused by Kenny. So while I don't forgive him, his attack makes more sense.

edited 14th May '15 4:42:36 PM by SilentColossus

It's also probably one of the reasons why Mike and Bonnie didn't try to wake Clem and take her with them. I'm pretty sure Arvo is the one who convinced Mike and Bonnie to leave, and probably kept them from getting Clem. He hates her, so he probably wouldn't have accepted her coming along. He probably convinced Mike that she was on Kenny's side and would've alerted him had they tried to get her. With how completely and utterly messed up Kenny was being, surely you can understand how they might actually consider that to be too much a risk.