Dragon Ball Z Abridged

There's a time limit, right?

Why would you ask that here instead of in the series proper thread?

Karxida: One year time limit. No saiyans.

But yes, billions of other aliens should have been brought back to life in the void of space where they all died a second time.

Heh. I was watching their Wrestlemain appearance.

I actually was the one who told everyone on the main thread about it.

It's still awesome. We could still get a TFS cameo on Up Up Down Down one day...or even members of The New Day in DBZA.

Ok. That last one is a bit hard to swallow, but still.

I asked here because I haven't watched DBZ and didn't know there was a time limit.

Thanks for the answers, though.

edited 12th Sep '16 8:56:41 PM by Karxrida

Maybe if someone asks a general series question in the Abridged series thread, they should just get an abridged answer (yes/no/because power levels/Toriyama lol).

Yep. Single-targeted resurrections have no restrictions on time, but mass-revivals have a cutoff date. The death must have occurred less than a year before the wish is made.

Actually, that's not exactly true; there is a one year limit on single person resurrections, it's just that the difference is between being brought back completely fine to being brought back in the last state you were in before you died. It's why Frieza came back as a bunch of flesh chunks, since that was the last state he was alive in before Trunks vaporized him.

When did that happen? (abridged answer, please)

You know, I'm hoping Dr. Briefs backed up 16's consciousness somewhere. You know, cause he's not a hack.

You know what would be hilarious? If they ever abridge Revival of F, end it with somebody wishing Cooler back to life, only for him to be informed that Freeza did it first.

"...Shut it down! Just shut it down!"

edited 13th Sep '16 12:16:46 AM by Anomalocaris20

not true at all, will elaborate after hamburgers

There is absolutely no rule about the one year limit applying to single resurrections (or applying but in an arbitrarily different way). The limit is only ever brought up as a unique condition for doing a mass revival, and only ever referenced in regards to mass revivals.

Freeza coming back in chunks is explained the same as anything else in Resurrection F: it isn't. But it's assumed that Freeza must have still been alive when Trunks cut him up, and that his ability to survive grievous injuries extended that far.

The dragons posses the ability to restore people's bodies, as Porunga mentions when he revives Kuririn. And there is no mentioned time-limit on this.

Resurrection F

edited 13th Sep '16 6:03:04 AM by Saiga

Thanks for that, Saiga. I was going to interject but it was late and I was tired and it probably would have come out half-gibberish and poorly fact-checked as a consequence.

The easiest reconciliation between ROF and DBZ would be to say that resurrection always just undoes the wound that killed you and puts life back in your bones, and it was just never relevant until now. There are very few times throughout DBZ history where someone goes straight from resurrection to battlefield, or where someone has a grievous injury that would be noticeable afterwards.

Tien comes immediately to mind, having had his arm punched off prior to killing himself with the Kikoho, but because the damage to his body was already patched up so he could take it to the afterlife, it's not really a problem. Except in Toei's Dragon Ball where they didn't quite understand how the "take your body with you" thing works and had separate corpses for Tien, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu still being cryogenically preserved when the wishes were made. But that's Toei.

Goku goes straight into combat immediately after revival but, like Tien, the damage to his body was already patched up ahead of time so he could take it to Kaio-sama's.

The biggest sticking point, I think, would be Vegeta's revival on Namek. He comes out of his grave fresh as a daisy after the horrendous curbstomp he received at Frieza's hands. And he didn't get to have his injuries patched up by God because he is a rotten dirty bastard. Do not pass Go, go straight to Hell.

edited 13th Sep '16 8:16:16 AM by TobiasDrake

What did they even put in Chaozu's cryogenic capsule?

When you say patched up by God, are you talking about Kami, or someone else?

What would you put in one?

It just needs to not let the corpse rot, they don't need anything special in there.

But he blew himself up. What's in the capsule, ashes?

So does that mean they sowed Tien's arm back on?

What? I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Dragon Ball...he wasn't put in a pod in DBZ.

3 bodies were Piccoro, Tien, and Yamucha...if there were pods.

I know for a fact that they put bodies in capsules when King Piccolo killed people. I'm not sure they did that after Nappa killed everybody.

They did. Kami made Chiaotzu a new body.

Okay, here's the scene from the original Dragonball where Krillin, Roshi and Chiaotzu were brought back and you can see them in these capsules.

Because, back then, they weren't given their bodies back in the Afterlife. They were post-Saiyans.

That and because Piccolo was still a "demon", and as such would trap people in Limbo if he killed them. Not sure if it extended to his sons though.

Kami. It means God and is supposed to be his role and title. But that made the English translators a bit squeamish as Christian elements in anime often do (Japan uses it as a cool exotic foreign mythos, the way Americans do with the Greek or Norse pantheons) so they changed Kami to being his name and gave him a new title as Guardian of Earth.

Same reason Hell got relabelled "HFIL, the Home For Infinite Losers".

Goku's body vanishes from Earth after God sponsors him in the afterlife, because keeping his body meant keeping his actual goddamn body. He patched up the damage and returned it to Goku so he could go train under Kaio-sama. Without it, he'd be one of those spirity puffballs.

Toei never quite understood this, resulting in a lot of inconsistencies during filler segments such as Yamcha and Tien still having corpses in the capsules Bulma stored them in when the time to resurrect them comes, or literally any time you have ever seen a villain with a body - most notably, the "Frieza and Cell are Bash Brothers in Hell" bits that show up in several places throughout the anime and movies.

I mean, Kami is really the furthest you can get from God, seeing as how God implies an omnipotent creator deity, which Kami...really isn't; for God's sakes a Saibaman can kick his ass. Really, the Omni-King and/or Tori-bot is the closest thing to God this franchise has.