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nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#19401: May 17th 2016 at 10:37:04 AM

No, it would be whoever succeeds Dumplin, since apparently at the point in time it takes place, Dumplin would be gone.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#19402: May 17th 2016 at 11:53:56 AM

Not all Foils have to be intentional.

The point of a Foil character is that in a reading of the work, the two characters are primarily read in contrast of each other. They highlight each other's traits through their differences.

That makes Foil a trope in the domain of the reader. Not the author.

Counterpart Comparison is about characters being similar. Not them being different.

It's also a trope that's more about how a character is reacted to than how it is interpreted.

Like. I guess interpretation is a kind of reaction.

But.

Like, to be a Foil in a literary sense means that you understand a character by looking at how they're different from another character. You understand them by seeing who they aren't.

Counterpart Comparison seems more like how x character is similar to another. And if you like the one you like the other. Or not.

edited 17th May '16 12:04:35 PM by unnoun

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#19403: May 17th 2016 at 12:22:11 PM

Wait, the thing that compares Wheelo and Guru is Foil? Why hasn't that been removed yet?

If characters don't even interact or have a meaningful relation to each other or their plotlines, they're not foiling one another. They're just two characters that can be compared and contrasted. There's an element of character dynamic that's essential in whether or not two characters are foils.

It's the same thing with Expy and "two characters that have similarities," which similarly gets misuse on the wiki.

edited 17th May '16 12:24:30 PM by KnownUnknown

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#19404: May 17th 2016 at 12:35:33 PM

Dragon Ball Z Abridged - Others.

Right here.

And if a contrast between characters isn't intentional, as we apparently know this to be, then itis an Audience Reaction and doesn't go on the main page. "Some audience members think the characters contrast each other in some way" alone is such a uselessly vague thing that literally every character would be foil to another.

edited 17th May '16 12:38:02 PM by Larkmarn

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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#19405: May 17th 2016 at 12:56:20 PM

Wait, the thing that compares Wheelo and Guru is Foil? Why hasn't that been removed yet?

Because my Dragon Ball trope audit hasn't even gotten past the letter E on the Z series. I probably won't even begin the Abridged section until late 2016 at the earliest.

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#19407: May 21st 2016 at 3:39:43 AM

That's a fine review like almost always.

But what really caught my attention was the picture, I sense a theme there and that pic from the episode is the start of a great change.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#19409: Jun 2nd 2016 at 8:20:59 AM

What a hoot that episode was.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
Gamer-turning-maker
#19410: Jun 2nd 2016 at 8:36:47 AM

... What are rules 3 through 5?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#19411: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:23:38 AM

Holy shit.

That was....wow.

Spectacular.

That's all I have to say. Completely spectacular.

Anyone recognize that song they were using when Trunks and Perfect Cell first started fighting? I really liked it.

One Strip! One Strip!
Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#19412: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:26:19 AM

When does it go on Youtube?

It's been 3000 years…
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#19413: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:29:21 AM

Even better than I was hoping for.

Also, their player is, well, playing better now.

edited 2nd Jun '16 9:29:35 AM by LSBK

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#19414: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:50:19 AM

Oh yeah, for anyone who doesn't get it, the episode title is in reference to an old DBZ Fansite completely dedicated to Trunks.

There was so many of those back in the day, I miss it. [lol]

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#19415: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:51:26 AM

It's just better player in all.

16 is vocal spectator, he's not as helpful cheerer as he should be.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#19416: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:54:53 AM

16 keeps rejecting possible bonding moments. So sad.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#19418: Jun 2nd 2016 at 10:04:18 AM

I know some don't like the Krillin Owned Count, but the one that happens here is probably the funniest one.

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#19419: Jun 2nd 2016 at 10:07:16 AM

Vegetarian and Krill-fish laughing together?

Yeah, probably.

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nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#19420: Jun 2nd 2016 at 10:07:29 AM

Yeah, that last scene was actually a bit touching along with being funny.

I mean, when was the last time we saw Vegeta laugh at something actually funny?

edited 2nd Jun '16 10:07:55 AM by nomuru2d

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#19421: Jun 2nd 2016 at 10:14:02 AM

[up] Well, there was that time he remembered Yamcha got killed by a Saibaman tongue

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#19422: Jun 2nd 2016 at 10:23:01 AM

Man, TFS Cell is the king of The Reason You Suck Speeches.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#19423: Jun 2nd 2016 at 10:27:10 AM

That 4 years worth of life experience really does wonders on world views, self discovery, and understanding of the weakness of others.

edited 2nd Jun '16 10:28:08 AM by randomness4

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#19424: Jun 2nd 2016 at 11:19:46 AM

I always thought Cell reverting to his larval form to fit inside the time machine was kind of weak. I mean, there have to be better ways to shrink yourself. Wouldn't it have been better if the time machine had been damaged in the fight with Trunks and the trip through time had actually made Cell younger?

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#19425: Jun 2nd 2016 at 11:24:33 AM

That's like basically the same thing.

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