Dragon Ball Z Abridged

Man, this cannot come soon enough.

I'm really starting to get impatient. I understand they want it to be the best episode it can possibly be as a potential Grand Finale, but the constant updates and sayings of "just wait" make me feel like this episode isn't going to be as good as they're hyping it up to be.

Half expected the DODGE! joke to come after Gohan completely snaps into SS 2 but this works too.

Not gonna bother with the preview myself. If they're releasing one it just means waiting a few more weeks anyway.

Funny how a preview is about 1/3rd of the total lenght of their first episode...

Being a fan of Yugioh abridged has completely inoculated me to long waits for episodes.

Well, that was entertaining. Cell is still hilarious.

Man I'm gonna miss this series. Did they ever say who would have been edited out of the Buu saga if they'd gotten to it?

Hmm. I gotta remember to start a page or two back sometimes. It looks like when you click on the thread, it jumps straight to the last page instead of starting on the page you were on last.

They haven't said it yet because the end of DBZA isn't a 100% set in stone thing yet. Perhaps if they do announce it, then that question'll be up for answering.

Of course, its entirely possible that plans changed for that scene and they decided not to go through with that.

I don't expect it will ever be 100% set in stone.

Rather, I expect they'll probably leave the door open for someday coming back to it if the issues precluding them from continuing ever get resolved, and then that just never happens. That's how these things typically end: indefinite hiatus rather than explicit cancellation.

Creators rarely come out and just say, "No, I will absolutely not be making anything more of this popular series ever again." Because there's really no reason to see it, and sometimes you do get the itch to go back and revisit something that you've made.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jun 28th 2018 at 4:33:14 AM

Speaking of the continuation, didn't Kaiser imply on his twitter somewhat recently that their efforts to diversify their output, which impacted the release of episode 60 and made some fans stupidly angry, could have paid off in the form of the Buu saga actually happening?

Was it recent? Just curious cause all i got is Kaiser's reddit post saying that, without the hiatus, they would have immediately end it at Cell to do their projects all at once.

Another option is that they could follow in the shoes of their predecessor, Akira Toriyama, and end the series. Then after decades of pursuing other projects, they run out of ideas so they come back to the show that made them famous.

But I thought/heard that Toriyama was just acting as an ideas guy and rubber stamp for Super, since he didn't want to be doing it anymore. Or at least I heard that he's not doing the art for Super.

Edited by Delphisage on Jun 28th 2018 at 8:40:30 AM

This is true. He gave outlines for each major story arc and helped out with some things here and there but it was mostly left up to Toei and Toyotaro.

Although he did redraw some of Toyotaro's panels for him.

He's said that he likes coming up with ideas but is happy to have someone else creating the end product.

He's apparently quite involved with the upcoming movie and produced too much content for them to fit rather than his usual barebones work.

Yeah he’s been really back & forth on how much he wants to keep working.

One minute he’s all “I want to sit back & let my successor handle all the biz cuz I’m spent” & now he’s all “Man I love working, got so much shit in my head that I haven’t used yet.”

Guess he got a stroke of inspiration recently.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 28th 2018 at 7:58:11 AM

So... he's Goku?

Edited by LordVatek on Jun 28th 2018 at 12:53:03 PM

Yeah, basically. Toriyama also has odd priorities. According to Toyotaro, he's very particular with the jokes and gags in the series, but he frequently leaves out major details from the plot outlines, such as Jiren's entire personality or how the Future Trunks arc ends.

Persoanlly, I'd like if TFS could move on to the Buu Saga after the Cell Saga, but I'd actually prefer if they decided to go backwards and Abridge the original Dragon Ball.

I don't know. I feel like we already have a pretty good gag version of the original Dragon Ball. It's called the original Dragon Ball.

Though an abridging of King Piccolo's arc onwards would make more sense since it's the most serious non-Z arc.

Heck, OG Dragon Ball even had fourth-wall breaking aplenty.

Remember that time when Krillin was able to defeat Bacterion by taking advantage of the art style? Goku reminded him that he doesn't have a nose, and thus can't actually smell any of Bacterion's odor-based attacks.

How does a satirist improve that?

It's not like the original Dragon Ball anime couldn't use an actual abridging, since it was more filled with filler than Z was (though the trade-off was less padding). My desire is less "make the original Dragon Ball funnier" and more "write the original Dragon Ball differently, but still in a funny way". The TFS crew have their own brand of comedy that's different than Toriyama's, more focused on pop culture references and character humor over slapstick and wacky reactions.

By subverting it after pointing it out?

I'd argue that there are three phases in terms of comedy in the manga - the beginning through the first half of the Red Ribbon Army arc (which is about 90% comedy), Taopaipai's appearance through to Tien's defeat (which was a period of about 70% comedy, with the villains now being serious threats) and, the most important watershed, Krillin's death at the hands of Tambourine through to basically the end of the entire manga (which marks a change to about 30%-20% comedy) which is where a lot of death and drama was introduced and gags took much less importance.

I honestly don't think most of the OG Dragonball stuff is good for DBZA, mainly because it's already mostly gags until the last two arcs, and also because... well... I think it's not as easily mocked. It's not until King Piccolo that the standard DB formula even enters the picture, and while there are plot holes and irrational behaviour (usually coming from Kami) they are again concentrated in those last two arcs. The previous ones usually don't have complex enough plots to have plot holes in them, and that's where a lot of the humour poking fun a the series comes from.

There are two other reasons. One is a completely different cast composition (no Vegeta, no Gohan, almost no Piccolo) which would make coming up with humour a lot harder. The final and probably most pressing issue... it would almost certainly be less popular.

Edited by Sigilbreaker26 on Jun 29th 2018 at 3:41:07 PM