Series/Supernatural

Well, Dick for sure at least, though I thought that's what Crowley meant.

I should hope that the Levvies are more killable now without the head. But Dean being trapped in Purgatory is ... yeah, that's pretty bad. Like, envy Sam trapped in hell bad, I should think.

They can't be killed by normal means but now that they are disorganized people will probably be able to cut off their heads and separate them far easier and they'll probably try to fight each other for control. Leading to them eating and killing each other if such a situation happens.

Heck even Dick Roman is still technically alive. Just in Purgatory again.

edited 18th May '12 8:42:05 PM by OmegaRadiance

The Lore is really inconsistent in that regard. I mean, God trapped the Levvies in Purgatory, but then they got out, but they were never killed in the first place, so, I mean, if they got out again, would it be any different from if they never were killed in the first place? Oiy Vey.

Souls are weird

Primordial worms from Purgatory are even weirder!

And deader, I'm hoping.

Just admit it. There's no resolution and the only lasting thing to come from this season was Bobby's death. Which apparently is still up in the air.

This finale was weak. They're running out of cliffhangers. Cass seems to be getting better though.

And killing the primordial worms.

Oh well. I guess that's why the next season should be last.

And this is a minor point, but "without plans, they're just monsters"??

I dunno about that, asshole. Seemed like you were desperate to form an alliance with the Levis and, failing that, kill them before they exterminated you and every other demon.

Way to deflate a year of tension.

Well, they did stab the head.

Yeah, this episode sucked and the climax sucked. Worst Supernatural shit since season six!

And, frankly, I preferred Dick to Crowley as the BBEG anyway.

edited 19th May '12 10:15:19 AM by TheyCallMeTomu

Having Crowley appeal to the Winchesters for help added a nice dimension to his character. Now, I buy that it's totally in Crowley's character to screw them, especially since they've foiled him so many times in the past, but having it be a giant Xanatos Gambit?

Not sure what the point of that was. I guess he can now rule the world with no Winchesters to stop him.

But he almost seemed lackadaisical when he snatched Dean and Cas, like he's just adhering to company policy and exploiting loopholes in deals. (Which is what he EXECUTED A DEMON FOR DOING in "Time for a Wedding".)

Though I guess you could argue that Crowley's behaving like a benign middle-manager of Hell was all a front, and he's still super-ambitious and power hungry.

edited 19th May '12 10:36:44 AM by johnnyfog

Well, a few points to keep in mind:

1.) The Time for a Wedding Episode, he was worried about the institution of hell losing credibility. He doesn't give two shits whether Sam and Dean trust him in the future.

2.) I don't know if he even wants to rule the world or not. I mean, he certainly has his machinations, but I don't know that he does the whole world domination thingy like Roman was going for. Though, now that there's no angels left...

No active angels left.
I figured there would be time travel in this ending. Not trapping Dean in purgatory.
While the monsters look better and should hopefully be better since they aren't in humans now, I doubt it.
Dean being trapped in Hell looked cooler. I wonder, would he die if he doesn't really have a body?
Hopefully Cas is back to normal. Though what the hell's up with Lucifer? I should think he should come back somehow.
Meg should've long since been dead.
I wonder when Bobby will show back up. I doubt that was it for him.
I wonder when the Alpha Vamp will show back up...
So maybe borax & Decapitation will kill the Levi's now?

This was a bit of a disappointment of an episode.

In the series finale, they'll all do a time warp back to when Azazel bled into Sam's mouth, and his mom will kill him. ;P

And Bobby needs to be dead. He was a ghost for too long and just...no, dead.

Well, if Ghosts are monsters so when they "die" they go to purgatory, I suppose Bobby could show up to help Dean out.

Ghost are just undead humans, they'd probably just go to Heaven or Hell, Bobby probably in Heaven.

Though if it were more Biblical, Purgatory is what Bobby would have to fight through if God decided that he wasn't pure enough for Heaven yet. ;p

So, here's a question to burn your noodle. So, all monsters go to purgatory , right? Well, what about the monsters who were forced into the change (Vampires, werewolves, etc) and were good people before then? Do they also go to Purgatory? I don't think any depiction of God would allow him to say 'Well, you got bit by something and you're no longer human. Hell is closed to you forever' and bam. So if you're a monster and you genuinely don't want to be, and you do your best to do good, do you think you can still go to Heaven?

Dean in Purgatory? Hoo, boy, I did not see -that- coming. The climax was a bit... well, what did you expect the climax to be? A beat down between Dean, Sam and Dick? This was the only way they could kill Dick without an Ass Pull.

And it wasn't so bad, since Dick managed an amazing Shit Eating Grin before he left, suggesting that he probably knew that Dean would get trapped in Purgatory. Best death too, with the waves and stuff.

Does anyone else find 'fruit loops' Castiel kind of... endearing? 'I prefer insects to Heaven' 'Monkeys are so clever' 'How much do you care about lipstick, Dean?' with priceless reactions from the other characters.

Yeah, I liked fruitloops Cas, and wish we got more of em.

Yes every single person turned into a monster is sent to Purgatory. It's why Eve was going to turn everyone into Jefferson Starships. So Crowley could never have another soul.

Man, God is an asshole in this universe.

And then he leaves and lets everyone else clean up his mess or release the messes he made because he didn't leave any knowledge of why people should never mess with Purgatory.

It's not surprising he's compared to John Winchester when others compare Lucifer and Michael to Sam and Dean.

edited 19th May '12 4:26:08 PM by OmegaRadiance

Speaking of whom...

Now that Crowley is taking over again, aren't they maybe going to crack open that box? Two big angels and like the last of the brothers' living relatives is down there.

If Jake Abel can still be persuaded to come back...

Crowley doesn't like Lucifer remember? The guy plans on killing all demons and Crowley knows it. Meg's the one who wants to free him.

Also who knows how well Jake is after being in the Pit. He's been in there longer than Sam and we don't know if anyone would fix him.

edited 19th May '12 4:43:35 PM by OmegaRadiance