The Strange Case of the Missing Ads

Freeze: Say it anyway, woman. not like we have much to lose at this point.

I spread my wings and I learn how to fly....

@Freezair: Mad is good. Out with it!

Heapers’ Hangout

Spill it, Freezair. Ideas are good.

edited 27th Oct '10 5:14:41 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

At this point, shouldn't this site have established a business model, actually?

And, Freezair, whatever your idea is, it can't be madder than mine so by all means, go ahead. At this point the very first thing we need is very, very good ideas, and the close second one is very, very good money.

Fanfic Recs orwellianretcon'd: cutlocked for committee or for Google?

This, at least, I can do.

Subscription only content? Sell trope based rifftrax? Directly sell advertising? Sacrifice a virgin? Tell us Freeze, tell us.

Do we actually have to buy something or just click on it?

You got some dirt on you. Here's some more!

Honestly, you could at least wait until Fast Eddie actually makes any changes before prophesying doomsday of everything even remotely "adult themed".

This is a site about fiction and almost all forms of fiction, outside those aimed at children, have some kind of sexual image in them. The point is how it is descried. E.g. Fetish Fuel probably will go, but Villainous Incest could stay. The difference is mentioning that something has a sex scene and describing said scene in detail.

That said, it still remains censorship and leaves a bitter aftertaste. When the current crisis is averted and the financial future of the wiki is secured, it might be a good idea to look into other advertisers.

Also, what is Google's policy on reinstating suspended accounts? Does Fast Eddies has to appeal, will they do some kind of recheck if the site now suits their policy, will they do it at all?

edited 27th Oct '10 5:20:19 PM by eX

So... every time someone clicks on an ad, you guys get money, right?

So what happens if I just sit here doing nothing but click on ads for a while?

I have no credit card, so I can't donate, and clicking the ads would be click fraud.

This is all really depressing.

Dumbo

Damn ninjaed.

edited 27th Oct '10 5:21:08 PM by Ultimatum

New theme music also a box

I think there is something called "Click Fraud"...

EDIT: Soi Fon'd.

edited 27th Oct '10 5:21:18 PM by Galeros

Click fraud, and I think that's illegal.

edited 27th Oct '10 5:22:08 PM by Marioguy128

You got some dirt on you. Here's some more!

Magic computer brain looks at you and says "Who do you think you are trying to kid?!" and then ignores you.

so ninja'd

edited 27th Oct '10 5:21:28 PM by SomeSortOfTroper

I heard something about needing an email address for editing? Methinks I want more context on that. But just from that statement, I think it's a bad idea, as all the people that my friends and I have converted to the site, we have done so at least partly with the assistance of the lack of a needed email account. In other words, the lack of an email address is a big, big turn on for many new converts. Maybe you could require it for the older people, the ones that have been established as tropers who won't leave, but for new people, it's probably not the best idea to request email adresses.

But if it's necessary for the site, then it's alright.

edited 27th Oct '10 5:23:33 PM by AlirozTheConfused

Never be without a Hat! Hot means heat. I don't care if your usage dates to 1300, it's my word, not yours. My Pm box is open.

They notice and they take action, or something. They're pretty good at recognising that sort of thing.

Especially since you just announced it.

edited 27th Oct '10 5:22:07 PM by EthZee

My mad idea? Well, it would require the Site Lords talking to a lot of popular nerd site people, and it's probably only a temporary fix, but...

1. There are a lot of nerds out there that like TV Tropes.
2. Some of them have websites of their own.
3. Some of those websites are pretty popular. Remember when we got overrun with XKCD newbies?
4. A lot of the people on those sites like TV Tropes too, and probably want it to stick around.

So my nutty idea is: A donation drive. But not something we keep silent and to ourselves. We talk to people with sites that tend to link to us a lot. We ask them if they're willing to plug for us a little. "Hey, TV Tropes is in dire financial straights right now," they might want to say for us. "If you wanna be a pal, why not throw them a couple bucks through Pay Pal? Anything over their donation limit (which I think is $5, right?) would probably help."

If the situation is as bad as I think it is, I don't think it's too shameful to grovel. Especially if a couple of our Nerdy Allies help.

"Proto-Indo-European makes the damnedest words related. It's great. It's the Kevin Bacon of etymology." ~Madrugada

I wouldn't be surprised if the Fetish Fuel pages were among the first things to go.

Eddie has stated his dislike of them more than once, as have several others (look at the discussion page of the Main namespace version).

...so... not a good thing, then. Okay.

edited 27th Oct '10 5:22:38 PM by Zudak

Amazon would detect that we suddenly 100 clicks for every page view, and ban us.

Only idea I have is make fiction as collaborative project and sell it.

But that quite crazy. We not have structure and it likely unsuccessful.

Edit: Freezair's idea good!

edited 27th Oct '10 5:23:10 PM by Meophist

Helpful Scripts and Stylesheets here.

@eX: [1]

[1] This facsimile operated in part by synAC.

(insert the relevant number of here) I knew I should have put that instead of "sacrificing virgin".

So... what's the polite way of saying "Hey, Linkara, we used four of your frakking quotes, cough up!"

edited 27th Oct '10 5:23:56 PM by SomeSortOfTroper

Who knows how to set up a shop on Cafe Press or Zazzle? If you know how and are willing to do so on behalf of TV Tropes PM me.

@#133

Yes; Yes, with a person, not just and algorithm; and It is devoutly to be hoped that they'll reinstate the ads if we meet their terms.

Freezair, that's not incredibly mad. It's fairly reasonable. Looking at sites that provide a number of inbounds on the "Inbound links today" list would be a good place to start.

edited 27th Oct '10 5:28:12 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

Re: Freezair's idea.

There is actually a thread up on the first page of XKCD forums talking about TV Tropes. I was considering posting something to the effect of "oh no TV Tropes is in trouble needs cash". I didn't want to do anything like that without someone's approval, though.