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HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#69676: Oct 19th 2014 at 6:06:13 PM

Somebody on Deviant ART actually made their own comic about what caused the war. It's pretty well-drawn but I think it makes Yhwach into too big of a woobie, since in the comic the war started with an oppressed-minority revolution a la 1800s Haiti.

edited 19th Oct '14 6:06:23 PM by HamburgerTime

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#69677: Oct 20th 2014 at 3:50:35 AM

Quincies are scum and should be eradicated.

Sykosis Dark Matter Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Dark Matter
#69678: Oct 20th 2014 at 6:12:24 AM

So we'll be right back where we started before this arc, with only two Quincies (The Ishidas). And that's assuming that Ryuken's death flags are a mere figment of my imagination.

No, I don't acknowledge the Kurosakis cos fuck them, especially Ichigo.

Quincies in name only, the lot of them.

What was in your right hand is hope; And in another hand is something else to fade.
Aquaconda Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#69679: Oct 20th 2014 at 6:41:47 AM

[up][up]So are the Arrancars. Anyone opposed to our glorious, plot protected shinigami must be destroyed. tongue

Sykosis Dark Matter Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Dark Matter
#69680: Oct 20th 2014 at 8:50:47 AM

And yet the arrogant jackass Grimmjow, disappointing Harribel, and unlikeable bitch Loly (and Menoly) are still alive, while the vastly more sympathetic Starrknette died a lame death.

What was in your right hand is hope; And in another hand is something else to fade.
Sykosis Dark Matter Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Dark Matter
#69681: Oct 20th 2014 at 9:09:06 AM

And yet the arrogant jackass Grimmjow, disappointing Harribel, and unlikeable bitch Loly (and Menoly) are still alive, while the vastly more sympathetic Starrknette died a lame death.

What was in your right hand is hope; And in another hand is something else to fade.
Sykosis Dark Matter Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Dark Matter
#69682: Oct 20th 2014 at 9:09:22 AM

And yet the arrogant jackass Grimmjow, disappointing Harribel, and unlikeable bitch Loly (and Menoly) are still alive, while the vastly more sympathetic Starrknette died a lame death.

What was in your right hand is hope; And in another hand is something else to fade.
joergenjetsam from The city of constant rain Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#69683: Oct 20th 2014 at 9:42:23 AM

[up],[up][up],[up][up][up]... uhm, was it your intention to make three of those?

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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#69684: Oct 20th 2014 at 9:43:23 AM

He feels really strongly about the subject. tongue

Sykosis Dark Matter Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Dark Matter
#69685: Oct 20th 2014 at 12:09:56 PM

[up]x2 Actually no, that was not my intention.

The situation is as follows:

  • Roughly 95% of my posts are done on my phone.
  • Sometimes the internet service is slower than Kubo's weekly pacing.
  • Sometimes the next page simply stops loading, like one of those timeout error things
  • Then when I try to reload the page, it results in double posts.

Although I may be temporarily jaded and bitter cos I just came off weekend-long SUFFERING binge (Black Bullet and a couple of Urobutcher anime like Puella Magi).

It was a weird binge. I generally don't like SUFFERING, but my curiosity turned the whole thing into a trainwreck (don't want to watch, don't want to not watch).

What was in your right hand is hope; And in another hand is something else to fade.
Aquaconda Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#69686: Oct 20th 2014 at 12:16:28 PM

What annoys me is that you have a bunch of quinces who could have had interesting backstories (Mask, Cang Du, Giselle, and BG 9 are some off the top of my head), but then Kubo decides to ignore that and portray the Quinces as dog kickingly evil despite the fact that the Soul Reapers tried to kill them all once before.

[up]Would you recommend Black Bullet?

edited 20th Oct '14 12:19:31 PM by Aquaconda

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#69687: Oct 20th 2014 at 1:01:04 PM

[up]The Soul Reapers killed them because they refuse to stop their potentially universe destroying actions.

For whatever else might have happened in the war, we've never been shown anything that contradicts what the Quincies were doing, would in fact end up destroying everything in existence.

Aquaconda Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#69688: Oct 20th 2014 at 1:07:46 PM

[up]I forgot that. I still find it weird that none of the Vandenreich have really referenced the previous genocide except for Yhwach.

VioletOrange Since: Jul, 2010
#69689: Oct 20th 2014 at 1:39:05 PM

They weren't there during the previous genocide, so they can hardly have any memory of it.

KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#69690: Oct 20th 2014 at 1:47:45 PM

Well I think a begrudging relationship along the lines of "You don't cause shit towards us, we don't cause shit towards you" between the Arrancar and Shinigami is possible, but there's no way the Quincies are going to be seen in a good light again after this series is over.

That seems to be exactly the relationship the Shinigami and Arrancar already had prior to this story. Remember, Barragan (who ruled a significant portion of HM) had never seen shinigami before Aizen & co. showed up, and we're told that stronger Hollow and Arrancar are usually too busy fighting each other to be any real threat to Soul Society or Earth. Without a unifying force like Aizen, it's probably super-rare to see Arrancar actually attack anywhere outside of HM. And we know that before Urahara, Shinigami had no means of opening their own portal to invade.

So it's entirely likely that before now, most battles between Shinigami and Arrancar were rare skirmishes which the shinigami usually won. There may have been a war or two over the centuries (because people like Zommari, Nel and Grimmjow acknowledge that there's a bitter feud between the two species), but for the most part, they were probably both working under "Don't start none, won't BE none."

As for the Quincy, I'm curious to see how and if they can exist without Yhwach. From what we can tell, he indirectly controls all Quincy power, so with him gone, there might be a chance for peace. That depends on what his origins are (he seems to be connected to the Soul King) and what plans he has for Uryu as his "successor".

edited 20th Oct '14 1:49:38 PM by KingZeal

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#69691: Oct 20th 2014 at 2:18:56 PM

Yeah, I don't see the Soul Reapers an Arrancars ever being on friendly terms than what King Zeal described. By the very nature of what Arrancars are and what Soul Reapers do, any meaningful or long-term peace or understanding is impossible.

As for Quincies, I imagine some of the sternritter and mooks will be alive when all of this is done. Perhaps more willing to just get on with their lives once Yhwach is gone. Of course, that could be a problem seeing as most of them don't seem to have lives apart from the Wandenreich.

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#69692: Oct 20th 2014 at 5:18:16 PM

I suspect Bazz-B, a couple Femritters, and maybe Askin will survive. And Uryu, of course.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#69693: Oct 20th 2014 at 5:53:31 PM

Bazz-B shot his female comrades. Normally, when a villain does that, he's dead meat.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#69694: Oct 20th 2014 at 5:57:08 PM

I picked Bazz for one of my survivors mostly because his personality kinda reminds me of Grimmjow.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#69695: Oct 20th 2014 at 6:06:43 PM

He doesn't have the same popularity as Grimmjow, though.

Askin might live if it turns out he isn't secretly a Death Seeker.

The Femritters, I dunno. Probably Liltotto and Meninas, with Candice as a maybe. Bambietta, only if all zombies are restored by Mayuri (which he doesn't appear willing to do).

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
DoctorDiabolical So pure. Since: Mar, 2010
So pure.
#69696: Oct 20th 2014 at 7:20:34 PM

I'm actually starting to think there may be a mass resurrection finale for this arc, with all the Sternritter just losing their powers.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#69697: Oct 20th 2014 at 7:26:18 PM

.... no. There will not be mass resurrection. This isn't DBZ.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#69698: Oct 20th 2014 at 7:29:00 PM

[up]Though I usually hate doing this, Naruto works better in this situation. Bringing people back to life was always option in DBZ, in Naruto it was just a one of thing to reverse all the damage to have drama without a real lasting impact. (besides the village being destroyed, and they fixed that fairly quickly)

Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#69699: Oct 20th 2014 at 7:29:34 PM

That'd be more similar to Naruto than Dragon Ball.

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#69700: Oct 20th 2014 at 7:30:27 PM

I don't think there'll be any super-happy peace between the Reapers, Arrancar, and Quincies, though grudging respect and mutual agreements to stop dicking with each other are likely. Bleach has always had the darkest tone of the Big Three, and an ending that's basically "everyone hugs" would be more Naruto's thing.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."

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