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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#26: Mar 7th 2010 at 3:36:41 PM

The team goes to California in S2, but the Cal-based villain isn't defeated until S3. There is a problem, though: the California-based Dark Lodge member is the Fairy Godmother, who is more of a Jerkass Genie type of villain. As for London, you'll have to keep in mind that Jinxed and her family were visiting relatives in London as well, so there would be some overlap in that case.

edited 7th Mar '10 3:37:01 PM by Ironeye

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#27: Mar 7th 2010 at 3:39:07 PM

Other possibility - maybe a European city like Paris, Rome or Brussels? They could run afoul of one of Moriarty's gangs.

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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#28: Mar 7th 2010 at 3:59:41 PM

That's certainly an option. smile

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#29: Mar 7th 2010 at 7:50:48 PM

An idea for having a cameo from a fictite we wouldn't normally use:

One character is feeling really confused about something is thinking about it on their own, when a person comes up to them from the other side of a fence that's nearby and asks what's troubling them. They explain their problem and the person gives advice peppered with obscure literature and anthropological references. Throughout this entire conversation the stranger's face remains half obscured by the fence. After the conversation, our character feels much better and the following exchange occurs.

Character: You seem to be pretty good at giving advice. Do you do this a lot?

Stranger: [beat] Yes, I do.

(or something along those lines)

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#30: Mar 7th 2010 at 7:55:35 PM

Hahah, I remember that guy.

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#31: Mar 7th 2010 at 9:50:34 PM

As for London, you'll have to keep in mind that Jinxed and her family were visiting relatives in London as well, so there would be some overlap in that case.

Maybe this could be an opportunity to give Cody firm ties to another main character.

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#32: Mar 8th 2010 at 2:34:32 PM

Like, they coincidentally turn out to be related or their parents were friends or something? Could work.

Been thinking about Cody's name. He's the only member of the team not to have a codename. Two thoughts:

  • Maybe he has a codename (something cheesy like "Sharpshot", perhaps), but they only bother to use it in transmissions or in public places?
  • Or maybe Cody is itself a codename, and he has a different real name (Robert Gloucestershire, maybe tongue)?

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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#33: Mar 8th 2010 at 3:22:16 PM

There is some precedent for characters having code names that sound "normal" (Karalora, Gabriel)...

Edit: Fixed the error—used to have "president".

edited 8th Mar '10 3:46:45 PM by Ironeye

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#35: Mar 8th 2010 at 3:41:25 PM

^^ Democrat or Republican? tongue

(The word you wanted was "precedent.")

edited 8th Mar '10 3:41:37 PM by Karalora

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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#36: Mar 8th 2010 at 3:45:58 PM

Noooooooooo! My language-fu fails me again!

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#37: Mar 11th 2010 at 10:24:54 PM

Hikari, Matrix, and I ran over the Ironeye is gay subplot and expanded it a bit. This obviously needs approval from Cody for some bits. The non-backstory events will take place in Season 1, maybe Season 2.

It all begins in the backstory. Since Ironeye is fits the Straight Gay trope, it's not immediately apparent to his teammates what his sexual preferences are. The first time Kara hugs Ironeye: "Don't think I want to date you or anything—you're too young for me."  *

"Well, you're too female for me." "Oh."

The others don't find out so explicitly. Ironeye ends up spending quite a bit of time with one of the townies on the team's normal circuit, tipping off Cody, Murky, and arks to what's going on—Matrix is too oblivious to notice.

Jump ahead to Season 1. The team gets to where Ironeye's "friend" is on their normal circuit, and the audience gets to see what the characters have already seen. The nature of it all leaves things ambiguous—it could just be a friend. Meanwhile, Cody has gotten a bit upset about Ironeye giving so much attention to someone so pathetic as Hikari, so he comes up with a plan to split the two of them apart: he tells Hikari that Ironeye is gay, correctly guessing that Hikari will misinterpret Ironeye's attention.

The next time Ironeye shows an interest in what Hikari is up to, Hikari tries to let Ironeye down gently and tactfully. For someone with social skills like Hikari's, this means a lot of stumbling over words and not saying anything meaningful. After an awkward minute or two of conversation, Ironeye figures out what's going on, reveals that he is, in fact, gay, but doesn't have his eyes on Hikari. "I like you, kid, but not in that way." (softly) "Not you..."

Some short time later  *

, the team is on a mission trying to steal information from a wealthy person (perhaps a fictite) during a fancy party. Ironeye and Matrix have to pull a Fake-Out Make-Out to keep their cover, leaving Matrix a bit disgusted, Ironeye a bit disappointed, and Murky rather amused. After the mission, when Murky's telling the others what happened and the kiss comes up, Matrix makes a comment about the quality of Ironeye's acting. "I wasn't entirely acting." Cue Matrix figuring out that Ironeye is gay. When Matrix notices that no one else is acting surprised and asks how they all knew, someone else asks Matrix if he thought Ironeye was hanging out so long with his "friend" for the stimulating conversation. Before Matrix can answer, Ironeye interjects. "Well that was a big part of it..." At someone's inquisitive eyebrow, he grins and adds, "not the only part, of course." Ironeye and Matrix talk; Ironeye apologizes and reveals that he's quite aware that the two of them fooling around was just for the lulz and that he'll stop if it makes Matrix uncomfortable. Matrix says that he's cool with them doing it again in the future, but he never does become entirely ok with it (not that he tells Ironeye).

Very early in Season 2 (or perhaps in the closing minutes of Season 1), Ironeye and his boyfriend breakup (seen from afar—the bf really barely qualifies as a minor character) because Ironeye and the rest of the team will soon be gallivanting around the world. The issue never really comes up again, as Ironeye is too busy dealing with his personal demons (and, lets face it, the increasingly complicated plot) to be bothered with things like sex and romance. Throughout the rest of the plot, the role of Ironeye's love interest is filled by Kara, The Not-Love Interest.

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#38: Mar 11th 2010 at 10:45:16 PM

Okay, so a little idea on the whole karamiester thing. Jinx could teasingly at some point rant at them "Jeez what are you two? Our parents? You argue like a married couple-aaahhhh!!" and proceeds to run away screaming for her life. Since Karamiester is very much oppossed by the characters.

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#39: Mar 11th 2010 at 10:46:35 PM

And then Matrix is there hanging back and laughing as Jinx runs and laughs.

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#40: Mar 12th 2010 at 3:35:26 PM

No objections from me to Cody's role there, Ironeye. Seems totally in-character.

Jinxed, what do you think of the idea of Cody and Jinx being related/their parents were friends?

edited 12th Mar '10 3:35:35 PM by BobbyG

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#41: Mar 12th 2010 at 4:51:24 PM

Hm, I don't mind the family friends thing. When Kara's team arrives Jinxed could yell "ARGH YOU?!" in a horrified rage.

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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#42: Mar 13th 2010 at 2:44:55 AM

Perhaps we could throw Jinxed into a flashback with no indication that she's will have any importance. Also, we need to figure out how Cody finds out that Moriarty is involved in the death of his 'rents. (We also need to figure out which versions—or composite versions—we want to use for the Master, Ganondorf, Moriarty, and Holmes.)

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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#43: Mar 14th 2010 at 5:30:19 PM

Oh, hey, question: are we ever going to establish what happened to Jinxed's parents? I imagine that they're either dead or MIA, but with all of the emphasis on people trying to find out what happened to their loved ones if they don't know already, it'd be kinda weird if Jinxed decided to live with Murky and Faw even if her parents were possibly still alive. Perhaps the fate of her parents is connected to that of Cody's parents somehow—it would push the two of them together even though their personalities pull them apart.

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JinxedBlackcat The Ultimate Bifauxnen from Blurry Edges of Genderfluidity Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#44: Mar 14th 2010 at 7:16:08 PM

I always figured a fairly obvious parentals are dead thing.

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#45: Mar 14th 2010 at 7:33:10 PM

So, what if Cody finds out that his parents are dead from Jinxed?

Or, I'd prefer this since it gives Cody more of an opportunity for a plotline and motives beyond your standard hero motives, what if Cody and Jinxed's parents were kidnapped by the same person (for some reason which we'd need to figure out)? Then both characters would be motivated to save their parents, only to discover that they are too late.

edited 14th Mar '10 7:33:30 PM by BobbyG

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#46: Mar 14th 2010 at 7:34:54 PM

Won't work. I've always had it slated that Jinx's parents are ka-put. I just forgot to put down that she's armed with this knowledge beforehand.

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#47: Mar 14th 2010 at 7:39:35 PM

But if Cody makes a discovery that makes it seem like they might be alive, then maybe that could give her false hope?

If you don't want that, I can understand. Just an idea.

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JinxedBlackcat The Ultimate Bifauxnen from Blurry Edges of Genderfluidity Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#48: Mar 14th 2010 at 7:44:38 PM

Well hers are of the "crushed under a building" type of death that she sees. So there's very little chance they lived through that. Though a false hope may appear in that she didn't see Cody's parents go down *shrug*

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#49: Mar 14th 2010 at 7:59:48 PM

In that case I'm thinking Cody and Jinxed's parents' deaths happened under different circumstances. Otherwise, Cody doesn't have a story arc.

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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#50: Mar 14th 2010 at 8:31:38 PM

Important question: Why are Mr. Cody's Parents and Mrs. Cody's Parents worth kidnapping?

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