Edit banned/Suspended - would like to edit again.:

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This is the thread we use to talk things over with people who received a suspension notice. A lot of the time the notice goes out just so we can explain how seriously we take certain things, not because we want the person to feel bad and go away.

For a fun site, we're pretty fussy about stuff like grammar and spelling, for example. More than you would expect, considering that we do want the funny. Everything is better with the funny.

Leave a note here indicating you want to talk the suspension over, then hang in there for a bit. A moderator will be along to talk to you about the situation.

NOTE: If you see another banned person post something that you want to comment on, don't. This thread is for discussion between banned people and Mods - no third parties invited.

While you're at it, browse What to Do If You Are Suspended.

edited 2nd Dec '13 9:48:19 PM by FastEddie

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@ The Urban Prince: The reason why your lack of correct capitalisation is a bad sign is very simple: on the wiki, we expect you to use correct spelling and grammar. Camacan's concern is therefore entirely reasonable.

Regardless of your intent, you engaged in an edit war. If this was unintentional, can you assure us that it won't happen again? Blaming the other guy is not enough; you need to demonstrate that you understand what you did wrong.

@ Eris Online: The wiki does not support discrimination against transgender individuals.

In your Trope Talk thread, Eddie proposed the inclusion of a line in the articles, noting simply that the tropes in question are negative stereotypes, and referring readers to the analysis tab for more information. If unbanned, would you be willing to abide by this standard?

edited 5th Jan '12 12:06:41 PM by BobbyG

Oh man, I'm sorry. Can I please be unbanned now? I didn't realize how serious this was. I meant to fix the page myself after I launched the thing when I first got a chance.

edited 5th Jan '12 4:52:12 PM by CyberXIII

Like i said, i'm sorry for the edit war. And i have NO intentions on starting another.
I've been edit suspended for months, now, for supposedly contributing "natter" and then complaining about the reports I got. I wasn't trying to make problems, but for some reason I must've offended someone with my complaints. I would like to start editing again, if possible.
80 Fighteer6th Jan 2012 02:32:05 PM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
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Here, let me link to the relevant conversation: [1]

Ah, yes. You got every single person who replied to you telling you that what you were doing was wrong and explaining how, and you steadfastly refused to accept the rules. There really isn't much for me to say about it that wasn't already said there. And your final "goodbye" post... yeah. I'm supposed to let you edit again after that?

edited 6th Jan '12 2:33:21 PM by Fighteer

You're the guy who got me suspended, in the first place, and the guy who kept on slamming me with natter reports. What did I do to piss you off, seriously? I didn't even start insulting ANYONE until after you ganged up on me and told me to "not post until I read the rules". What else what I supposed to do to respond? And you're STILL mad at me, despite the months I've been suspended on here? Aren't you abusing your roll as a mod, just a tad? Frankly, I'd rather have some other mod look at this and make the decision on whether or not to unsuspend me, if you'd please, since it seems like you are in no way objective when it comes to this issue.

edited 6th Jan '12 2:39:12 PM by SynjoDeonecros

82 Ironeye6th Jan 2012 02:41:42 PM from SoCal , Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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As you wish.

It was Natter. You did throw a temper tantrum. Having a persecution complex doesn't excuse you from learning how to edit the wiki. "Informal" doesn't mean "like a forum". Repair, Don't Respond. And Fighteer's being more objective than you are, since he's actually going off one of our guidelines pages.

Anything else I can clear up?

edited 6th Jan '12 2:42:22 PM by Ironeye

I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
83 Fighteer6th Jan 2012 02:42:30 PM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
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(shrug) There's an email address you can use to appeal to Eddie. I think you'll find that he agrees with me, though. I do have to say that it's rare that someone makes so clear-cut a case for an elevation to full-banned status.
84 Madrugada6th Jan 2012 02:51:40 PM , Relationship Status: In season
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Ok, I'm a different mod, and I've looked at the thread Fighteer linked to. You simply refused to accept that your edits were not following the rules, in either content or format. You whined that you were being singled out, rather than acknowledging that everyone who responded to you told you the same things, not just Fighteer. You accused Fighteer of misusing his position as a mod, which indicates that you don't understand what his job as a mod is — it's to protect the wiki from bad edits and bad editors, not to allow and encourage them.

You don't seem to get that editing the wiki is not a right. It's a privilege. You abused that privilege, and so, as often happens, you lost it.

Your behavior in this thread doesn't make me think that you get it now, either. Even if Fighteer was inclined to lift the edit ban on you, seeing this, I would argue against it. Since he's not inclined to lift it, I'll simply agree with him.

edited 6th Jan '12 2:52:43 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
So are we square now?

edited 6th Jan '12 3:24:22 PM by TheUrbanPrince

Is there a reason I was rebanned after I asked to be unbanned earlier?
Just checking in to see if my suspension could be lifted, as it has been about a week and a half since.

However, if it is so deemed that I must wait another week or so, I'll happily take it on the chin.
what are you doing
@Camacan - Yes, I apologize for that, as well. I need to take a break when natter begins to annoy me...
89 Camacan7th Jan 2012 02:43:45 AM from Australiatown
Okay mate, suspension lifted.
I'd like to edit again, if at all possible. I promise not to early launch a ykttw again, if that helps any.

edited 7th Jan '12 7:25:53 AM by CyberXIII

I'm guessing I'll need to wait another week?
Flying general
Please inform me about the reason for my edit suspension.
Wasting our time with a bunch of Troper page vandalizing because some RP didn't go your way? No idea why we didn't go straight to a full, forever ban. Mods, did one of you think there was something redeemable here?
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty

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Um, well, not really, no, other than that the RP boards tend to be particularly volatile drama-wise and that the host of the RP in question has been involved in drama there before. Perhaps I was over cautious.

In any case, Kaze, nothing in your edits inspires me, and your posts are entirely RP related. I don't see any reason to lift the ban.
Does anyone know how long these suspensions tend to last?
I would like to know as well. I apologized twice and i'm still banned.
Errm...what have I done *probably while drunk*?I am banned now,and I don't know how to look what pages I changed... ...Seriously,what it was?
I was banned and unable to post an unban request because my off topic comments in this thread were claimed to be trolling, and when I was unhappy with the staff I took it to Ask The Tropers. Would it be possible to explain what I would need to do in order to get my editing privileges back?
I don't know why I was banned. I'd like to edit again. If I was banned for something, it won't happen again!
100 Camacan9th Jan 2012 01:50:52 AM from Australiatown
Quite a queue there.

First up, getting a second go is not a given. Editing privileges are contingent on making good edits and resolving conflicts properly. In some cases we may offer a second chance, taking into account the troper's history, their understanding of what went wrong, and a agreement not to do it again.

  • Cyber XIII: That was quite a mess with the Immune to Flinching YMMV. I think you need a lot more experience of the wiki before you take on the responsibility of launching a YKTTW. I'll restore your editing privileges but not the YKTTW one. I'd strongly suggest going back to Welcome to TV Tropes! and reading through all the documentation carefully and making some small edits while you learn more about how the wiki works.

  • The Urban Prince: Given the edit war, the apparent lack of appreciation for reasonably correct English (given how important it is on the wiki) and your edit history we're not going to be re-extending editing privileges. I'm seeing natter, real-world politics ending up in trope descriptions, examples without details, bad Example Indentation. In general, it's not okay to make edits where other folks need to clean up afterwards.

  • Mefista: Your first edit was vandalism. Nothing to discuss.

  • thedragoness: We've got your history of ignoring all the various thumps and warnings in Edit Banned when we asked you over and over not to add third-party commentary. Then you had a go at a mod in Ask The Tropers. Consider the ban permanent.

Wereworld, hello there. Can you explain to me why you were pulling entries on Headscratchers.Tangled and Fridge.Tangled without giving an edit reason and then re-pulling them when they were replaced?

(I see that when they were replaced, the replacing editor asked specifically for a good reason or the matter to be taken to the discussion page. That's the gist of the edit reason given when the stuff was put back.)

edited 9th Jan '12 2:02:46 AM by Camacan

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