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Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 15th 2023 at 11:35:01 AM
41314
Whenever I click the "edit" button, I'm told "editing has been turned off for you", but I'm not sure why. Did I do something wrong? I never meant to. Sometimes I got messages "explaining the badness of natter", but it was never clear to me how what I'd written was natter. If it's because of my edits to the PETA page, I'm really sorry. I just thought the page was presenting only the positive side of the organization and needed more balance, but perhaps I went about it the wrong way. Whatever it was I did, what should I have done instead? And why has my page for Day At Last Chance been deleted when so many other tropers were allowed to place pages about their works? I'm trying not to sound whiny, but I seem to have been blocked without fair warning and possibly for doing well-intentioned things wrong without realizing I was going about it the wrong way. May I please be allowed to edit again and have my video page back?
edited 11th Apr '12 7:47:06 AM by 411314
the world is so complicated
Lost in Space
@NC69: If you say it was an accident and you did not mean to vandalize the page, I suppose I can lift the suspension. Your explanation smacks of "the dog ate my homework", though, and we don't give many third chances.
@411314: I'm amused that you thought the writeup as it existed was "positive". It was in fact so negative that I have deleted the entire examples list and recommended the article for cutting. This wiki is not an opportunity to tell us how evil you think Real Life people are. But what really annoys me is that you were told this by other people cleaning up your edits and persisted in adding them back anyway.
edited 11th Apr '12 7:53:36 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
41314
If I remember correctly, the page refereed to PETA as Hero Antagonists and said "there heart is certainly in the right place", which sounds positive to me. I must have misunderstood the messages I was getting in response, because I thought the problem was with the way I added the info (as a bullet point under the original trope write-up) rather than what I wrote. I then tried (though I admit, rather clumsily) to re-write it as one section that would point out the arguments for and against the claim that PETA has its heart in the right place. The original entry also seemed to me to be implying that PETA's heart was in the right place because they only want to stop animals from being treated cruelly. Since their long-term goal is to eliminate any human use of animals altogether, this seemed like a lie of omission to me, so I tried to point out what was being omitted. My goal was not to "point out how evil" PETA is (for all I know, they may have done some very good things as well) but merely to point out some info I thought was important about PETA that the previous editor was missing. What would've been a better, more constructive way to accomplish these goals?
the world is so complicated
Lost in Space
You got roped into the basic problem with the article, which was that it talked about a Real Life organization in terms of things like "hero" and "antagonist", which is something we're trying to avoid. Following the example provided, you proceeded to stoke the fire.
I hope you have seen the reason why we don't allow articles to be written in this fashion. In the future, if you see that an article is overly negative or positive in regards to a Real Life person or group, or uses any tropes that talk about morality or their position as a hero or villain, please ask your fellow tropers about it, either here on the forums or on Ask The Tropers, so we can address the issues collectively.
Suspension lifted.
edited 11th Apr '12 8:14:55 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Hello, I would like to know what I did to get suspended because I wasn't informed. Would you please tell me so I can make sure to not do it again, please?
You can never escape me. Nothing harms me. But I know pain... I know pain. Sometimes I share it, with someone like you.
Lost in Space
@The Rat Squid: Okay, well, how do I put this delicately? Almost all of your edits need to be cleaned up or undone. Why is that, you ask? Because you're kind of CRAZY with the tone and the enthusiasm level. You took it on yourself to add Playing With entries for several tropes that don't really need them. You make entries (not comments, mind you) on a YMMV page like, "Wow, I love how all of your links failed!" Your edit reasons are WAAYY RADICALLY CRAZY DUDE.
Can you dial it back a bit? You come across as the guy who barges into the party and decides that he and he alone will be the center of attention.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
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edited 13th Apr '12 10:25:12 AM by LightsaberGuy
Son, I am thoroughly disappoint..
From the looks of things you got banned for rude edit reasons. (To wit: calling another troper a "pussy" for taking down an image.)
"Yup. That tasted purple."
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edited 13th Apr '12 10:25:02 AM by LightsaberGuy
Son, I am thoroughly disappoint..
Lost in Space
Let's work on your people skills a bit. Changes to the wiki are not the end of the world. Change happens, and if you don't like it, there are more constructive ways of dealing with it than yelling at people in the discussion pages and in edit reasons.
If you're so invested in the wiki that the removal of an article seems like a personal attack, then maybe you need a break. Deep breaths, okay?
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Yeah, I guess I did get a bit overexcited with the editing with those playing with's, got sick of those though, and as you that link fail comment I thought it was kind of needed I mean seriously why is it 5 times out of 10 on this site a link fails? Anyways I appreciate you informing me and if I get my editing rights back I promise to tone it down and be a bit less crazy because I got a refill on my medication, I have adhd in case you were wondering.
Lost in Space
It is never acceptable to comment on another troper's edits in the page itself. See Conversation In The Main Page and How To Write An Example. Report back when you understand those and I'll lift the suspension.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
[REDACTED]
edited 13th Apr '12 10:24:50 AM by LightsaberGuy
Son, I am thoroughly disappoint..
I understand, I won't do it again I promise.
That doesn't give you the right to attack him for it.
"Yup. That tasted purple."
I think editing was turned off for me because I put a title with over 20 inbounds on the Cut List. Okay, from now on, I'll only be putting titles with no links to other TV Tropes pages and with only 20 inbounds or less. I'd like to edit again.
You were ordered to stop and yet continued to do so.
It wasn't just one article either. It was over eleven.
edited 12th Apr '12 9:57:53 AM by Deadbeatloser22
"Yup. That tasted purple."
Lost in Space
Why don't you chill with cutlisting redirects in general, Goldstone? The reason Redirects Are Free is a policy is because there's no need to cut them unless they are, specifically, the old name for a renamed trope AND have no wicks or inbounds. Redirects with no wicks are not automatically cutlist fodder unless they are inaccurate or otherwise problematic.
@The Rat Squid: Okay, I'll let you edit again. Just try to be calm about it, okay? 
edited 12th Apr '12 9:59:50 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
[REDACTED]
edited 13th Apr '12 10:25:24 AM by LightsaberGuy
Son, I am thoroughly disappoint..
I was only once, and I didn't figure it was a big deal because it was only 29 and not a huge number over the norm that I was told it was 20, after that I was only aiming at titles with 0 or little to no inbounds.
Okay I've learned my lesson. No more than 20 inbounds it is.
Lost in Space
I am pretty sure the threshold is 10, not 20.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
That's what I read at first, but then someone told me it was changed to 20 and no put any titles on the Cut List that have around 1000 inbounds.
Okay, if 10 is the limit, I'll take it.
Lost in Space
I may be behind in keeping track of TRS policy. Still, let's not push the boundaries, k? And leave all those normal redirects alone unless they are misleading. Lifted.
But this is not the first time you've been to this thread. You've been warned — if there's a next time it won't be so easy.
edited 12th Apr '12 10:08:46 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
I'm still waiting for my suspension to be lifted. I never actually wanted to put the Spongebob picture in the Jerkass page. What I was originally going to do was put the picture of Homer Simpson that described his gentle side and his violent side. The description on the bottom of the picture said: "Homer Simpson, before and after." This is because The Simpsons is the Trope Namer for Jerkass. I didn't know how to replace the image at that time. As I said, I didn't mean to put the Spongebob picture on the page. I just used that picture to test image replacements. As I was about to reset the image into the original image of Cartman, my computer crashed unexpectedly at the wrong time. When I rebooted back online, that's when I found out I was banned. So now I'm waiting for a response to have my editing privileges back.
edited 9th Apr '12 2:29:58 PM by NC69