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Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 15th 2023 at 11:35:01 AM
The other thing you lack is an understanding of what an omnipresent trope is.
The work had less than one full page of examples. That's far from every work ever and it's not a trope that's actually omnipresent. Actual omnipresent tropes are very rare. People have a tendency to give that label to any trope that's common, but actual omnipresent plots are things like Protagonist. Tropes that are basically required for a story to exist. Not just tropes that show up a lot.
edited 17th Mar '12 9:52:45 PM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Manwithplan, suspension lifted.
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Field Primus
Your terms are acceptable; I will turn my attentions to the Elf Only Inn character sheet once my suspension is lifted. Not sure how much time I can sink into it (fairly busy with several projects at the moment), but I'll do my best to get those placeholders tracked down before I run around doing other stuff too much.
(I did ask for help with the page, but only got one response, and he only updated one entry. Wish other fans would take interest; I prefer the cooperative wiki mode to just setting up a page all by myself. Which is part of why I like this site.)
Only the curious have, if they live, a tale worth telling at all.
Cutmaster-san
Alright, Kilyle. Editing has been turned back on. Remember, if you can't come up with the name, it shouldn't be on the page.
edited 18th Mar '12 1:49:23 AM by Ironeye
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
Harley Quinn hyenaholic
@ Shimaspawn
Well, I won't pretend that I fully understand what an Omnipresent Trope is just yet - well, what makes an omnipresent trope - but I sure won't try to label a trope as one until I do.
So can I please have my edit priviliges back now?
@ Harley: I'll lift the suspension. Try to be a bit more careful about making big changes unilaterally.
edited 18th Mar '12 7:54:54 AM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Please let me know why I was banned.
Honestly, launching tropes in such terrible state that they need to go to the TRS immediately to be cleaned up, vandalizing existing tropes to support your arbitrary splits, moving examples around to tropes seemingly at random, and general making a mess of things.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Someone said in an earlier discussion that I was supposed to send confusing tropes to YKTTW to give them opportunity to be discussed, so I sent Saint Chevalier there, but few people said anything about it.
I'm sorry for making major changes without a TRS in the first place. I should have realized back then that "anyone can edit" doesn't mean that it's okay to make major changes on my own.
I was misinformed. I now understand the importance of a YKTTW and TRS. What should I do now?
I don't know. It's going to take months to clean up the amount of mess you've made.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
I tried to edit a page today, but it says that editing has been turned off for me. I thought maybe I was unallowed to edit only the Pandering to the Base page (I posted some Friendship is Magic info on that page even though I don't watch that show, but then someone removed the info I posted, and he didn't even specify why), but then I tried to edit other pages and post on the "You Know That Show" page, but it won't let me edit no matter what now.
Can someone please help me?
Ravenous Sophovore
You were suspended for breaking the cardinal rule: Don't be a dick.
Your edit on Pandering to the Base:
That's unacceptably rude, and was reported as offensive. I don't know why you thought that was acceptable to add to the page, but that isn't the sort of thing we go for around here.
edited 19th Mar '12 6:37:18 AM by ccoa
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
You don't think there's a problem with "It's obvious that they only put that scene in there for the crazy, batshit fans that like to masturbate to the ponies"?
To explain why that's wrong, how about I go to the Pandering to the Base page and say that Snake and Ocelot were only in MGS2 so that people could jerk off watching it? You can tell how stupid that is even if I don't call MGS fans (such as myself) "crazy" or "batshit."
Ninja'd.
![[down]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_down.png "[down]"){kind=icon}
It means that while I was typing my post, someone else said the same thing.
edited 19th Mar '12 6:54:59 AM by BestOf
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
What does "ninja'd" mean???
Anyway, I'm sorry for that edit, and I apologize if it offended bronies. I am deeply sorry, I will never post anything like that again.
Ravenous Sophovore
I'm going to lift the suspension, but I highly recommend you take some time and browse Administrivia to acquaint yourself with our culture before resuming editing. Of note, TV Tropes Customs and The Troping Code should be good reads. The sandbox for the Dont Be Creepy policy is probably also relevant.
Do note that we almost never give third chances. If you are suspended from editing again, it will almost certainly be permanent.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
I have been banned and would like to know how long it lasts/if it could be lifted. I’m pretty sure my ban was from some bad cases of natter. I understand that now. Sorry, I am new to Tvtropes.
Ravenous Sophovore
It was indeed from Natter, and also from using first person on the wiki, incorrect Example Indentation, and Justifying Edits.
Before reversing the suspension, I'd like to know that you understand why all of those are a bad idea, not just natter.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
Ok. I think I got the indentation problems down. I didn’t realize about the first person, sorry. I will avoid Justifying Edits as well. Sorry for everything.
Ravenous Sophovore
Okay, suspension lifted.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
Stollercon
If I may ask, why was my editing ability turned off?
You were injecting homophobic natter into Hitler Ate Sugar. Both homophobia and natter are against site rules.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Why was editing turned off for me
. I don't understand. Please, I'd like to edit again.
edited 23rd Mar '12 7:44:52 AM by Goldstone
@ Shimaspawn:
I did it without thinking; the example sheet was huge, and it seemed to be a case of pretty much every work I've ever seen. The Trope seemed like it was getting Universal, and from experience we don't have examples on Universal Tropes pages - plus a closely related page had a similar marker - and that page also stated it didn't need examples and had no examples. I even added to the desciption (although not the discussion) that it seemed to be a universal trope.
(I can't remember the page now; I just remember doing it)
I should have discussed an edit that size before I changed it, and checked to see if other people agreed; I understand that now. If we didn't have Restore tools I'd probably have made a serious mess of the page. So it's a good thing we do.
Can I please edit again?
edited 17th Mar '12 9:28:23 PM by HarleyQuinnhyenaholic