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artfulscruff Since: Apr, 2010
#376: Jul 28th 2014 at 3:43:46 PM

I got all the atmas on one of my characters a while back. Doing the next stage of things with him now, when nothing else takes my fancy.

They've said they won't, but I really hope they ease up on the atma drop rates.

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#377: Jul 28th 2014 at 5:40:47 PM

Square said they have no plans to nerf Atma "right now", meaning any nerfs Atmas get will be much later if that is the case.

With my Daystar Robe and Pants in their full glory, now I can look like something beyond white!

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MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#378: Jul 28th 2014 at 7:27:40 PM

[up] Now if only I cna dye the Royal/Crimson set,..

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#379: Jul 28th 2014 at 10:21:01 PM

Unique gear are always flagged as dyeing disabled.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#380: Jul 28th 2014 at 10:22:34 PM

That sucks. Someone told me you could dye the classic White Mage set.

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#381: Jul 29th 2014 at 12:31:43 AM

Oh that? I believe you need a special item to do that. Dunno how to get it.

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MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#382: Jul 29th 2014 at 6:52:33 AM

you get it from crafting

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#383: Jul 29th 2014 at 10:23:09 AM

Bleh, crafting. Couldn't stand it after trying it out.

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artfulscruff Since: Apr, 2010
#384: Jul 29th 2014 at 10:32:38 AM

I think there's a quest in Mor Dhona that has something do with dying normally undyable high level gear. I haven't done it though, and have heard it is something of a pain.

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#385: Jul 29th 2014 at 10:58:10 AM

So my blue triangled White Mage set can be a thing? That's cool. MMO's are all about long tedious treks to success, so I'll get to it whenever I hit 50.

artfulscruff Since: Apr, 2010
#386: Jul 29th 2014 at 1:13:17 PM

I don't know exactly how it works, to be honest. I haven't seen many people with dyed high level gear.

MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#388: Jul 31st 2014 at 2:59:24 AM

So I've been saving up Gil through Challenges, Levequests and the like and I've almost got a White Mage to go along with my Scholar, because redundancy's great. I kind of want to gear up both my Retainers for Ventures and myself for more efficient cooking and botany, but I'm not sure if the Gil invested will flow back in as easily for the inevitable end game money sinks (300k for a Free Company room is the standard now, but I'm sure it'll get nasty if they ever release full size, private homes.) Should I spent the cash now or wait on it?

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#389: Jul 31st 2014 at 6:37:36 AM

Retainers usually bring back 9 to 13 bronze pieces which are 100 gil each, but that's if you do the 18 hour ventures. Quick ventures don't need a gear level, but the loot they bring back is totally random, ranging from absolute trash to unique gear.

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InfiniteParagon The Warrior Monk of Coeurl from Texas Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#390: Aug 5th 2014 at 10:55:17 AM

So I recently got this game and am currently a lv. 20 Marauder (lv. 8 or so Gladiator on the side for Flash and eventually to turn into a Warrior). I'm basically a little in the main story past the point where you venture to the other two starting cities and have run into a little problem - i'm unsure what quests I should be accepting and completing for my Marauder and what quests I should be accepting and completing for my Gladiator or whatever other classes I choose to look into playing. Is there any rule of thumb for that, by chance? I assume the beginner quests inside the starting cities are best saved for secondary classes but what about sidequests from settlements outside the city walls?

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Anura from England (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#391: Aug 5th 2014 at 11:02:56 AM

You can do whatever sidequests you want. There's no "should" about doing them.

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#392: Aug 5th 2014 at 11:42:57 AM

Crossposting this from the general thread, since I have a question that pertains to it that I felt would be better answered by the people in this thread who actively play the game:

One of my friends linked me this. It seems that Final Fantasy XIV now has a free trial option. It's for 14 days of play and the level is capped at 20, and there are some other limitations (I recommend that anyone interested should read that FAQ). The biggest one (to me at least) is that if you want to use continue using a free trail character in the full game, you'll need to get the full game within 90 days of the free trial's expiration.

My friend also said that this is a really bare-bones kind of trial; capping the level at 20 means barely experiencing what the game really has to offer. He said it barely amounted to more than 2% of the game (although I feel he was exaggerating) and mostly suggested that it wasn't worth the effort if you weren't already planning to get the game at any point.

My question is, is he right in his assessment that level 20 is too low to really entice people to buy the game based on the trial alone?

InfiniteParagon The Warrior Monk of Coeurl from Texas Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
The Warrior Monk of Coeurl
#393: Aug 5th 2014 at 11:58:12 AM

You can do whatever sidequests you want. There's no "should" about doing them.

That both does and does not answer my question. I'm aware nothing is stopping me from accepting them but is there some point (the level requirement, perhaps) that people generally should just say "Okay, saving that for my secondary class."?

My question is, is he right in his assessment that level 20 is too low to really entice people to buy the game based on the trial alone?

Although I started about a week ago (but play it a hell of a lot now), i'd say level 20 is enticing enough - its certainly enough for you to get the hang of a class and tell if you like it or not, for example. Assuming they don't skimp out on story missions, you'll be able to get a good sense of all that without touching what I assume to be the main plot. I'd say it'd really depend on if you can run Sastasha or not in the Free Trial, as that's the first real instance of anything that even remotely resembles endgame content.

If the next two weeks is pretty open in terms of your schedule and you're willing to give it an honest shot, i'd say what the Free Trial gives you is well worth the time. In short, not a waste.

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Anura from England (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#394: Aug 5th 2014 at 12:04:24 PM

Personally I just saved sidequests in a particular zone for the first class I got from that zone. Honestly though, you can level up so quickly from daily roulettes, FATEs and Leves that there's little point in saving them.

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Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#395: Aug 5th 2014 at 12:21:25 PM

Just do the side quests anyway. Dungeons and FATE rushes will help you level up your other classes. Guild and Levehests are another good way to farm for EXP. Once you hit level 43, you can start doing the beastmen daily quests for EXP and other loot.

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#396: Aug 5th 2014 at 3:44:07 PM

I just got the game recently myself, but this seems to be a decent leveling guide. It's rather easy to get to level 15 in a new class (since I've done that already as an Arcanist and a Thaumaturge for my Conjurer character), which should satisfy the Job requirement. Also, I'm pretty sure low level classes get an experience bonus, which increases the wider the gap (e.g., if you're already a level 40 in one class, and only a level 5 in another, the level 5 will see a decent boost). So I'd recommend going full speed ahead on your primary class, accepting all quests that are within 4 or so levels, push to 15 on the Job requirement when the primary hits 30, get your Job, then continue with the main scenario.

At least, that's my understanding of the game so far.

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#397: Aug 5th 2014 at 4:09:00 PM

The level boost depends on your highest-levelled class. So you should level one to 50 before trying any others (sans getting one to 15 to unlock your job, which isn't difficult).

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#398: Aug 5th 2014 at 4:28:03 PM

What [up] said. The level boost isn't a sliding scale like the in-game description might lead you to believe, but a flat 50% boost if your current DoW/DoM class is lower level than your highest one.

Also, depending on which job you're aiming for, it might be worth taking one of the "secondary" classes past 15. For instance, Thaumaturge learns Swiftcast at 26, which is a major lifesaver for White Mage, Black Mage, Scholar, and Summoner if you have your eye on any of those.

edited 5th Aug '14 4:29:10 PM by Reflextion

Anura from England (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#399: Aug 5th 2014 at 4:52:06 PM

[up]You'd have it anyway by the time you unlocked Black Mage. tongue

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#400: Aug 5th 2014 at 4:55:03 PM

[up] haha, yes :p This is what happens when I post while distracted

Swiftcast is still great for BLM though, at least once you get Flare, but that's a whole other subject.

edited 5th Aug '14 4:58:50 PM by Reflextion


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