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hayate666 New England Devil Stork Conservationist Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
New England Devil Stork Conservationist
#13026: Oct 5th 2015 at 2:29:42 AM

He went from a guy owning and wielding a complete arsenal to a dumbass who threatens people with a wooden sword. Also I know that "testicles in the air" is supposed to be Tats version of cute or something, but I find it really cringe worthy.

Nobody is that stupid.

edited 5th Oct '15 2:29:53 AM by hayate666

Medinoc Chaotic Greedy from France Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Chaotic Greedy
#13027: Oct 5th 2015 at 4:25:49 AM

[up]You say nobody is, but I remember being recounted that someone mentioned being kicked in the "clavicles". My mom suspected a Last-Second Word Swap from "cojones".

Malapropisms do happen, especially with words that sound similar.

edited 5th Oct '15 4:54:55 AM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Elfive Since: May, 2009
#13028: Oct 5th 2015 at 4:41:14 AM

Getting kicked in the clavicle is totally something you can do though. Probably hurts a fair bit, too.

Medinoc Chaotic Greedy from France Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Chaotic Greedy
#13029: Oct 5th 2015 at 4:56:37 AM

But getting both with a single kick (the actual sentence as I remember it was "un coup de pied dans les clavicules") takes dedication.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Vree Since: Jan, 2001
#13030: Oct 5th 2015 at 9:42:49 AM

I wish sometimes that the writing could live up to the art.

I also wish Tats would get out of his room and smell the roses more.

Pfhorrest Since: Apr, 2011
#13031: Oct 5th 2015 at 8:32:27 PM

Frankly I'm just surprised that Tats has the conejos to even say the word "testicles".

Metalix Since: Apr, 2012
#13032: Oct 5th 2015 at 9:59:38 PM

http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2015-10-06

Y'know, with the amount of time this guy has spent chasing Squig and messing with these two he could've bought new coffee and doughnuts.

Moritasgus A happy fanboy from Somewhere on Sullust Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
A happy fanboy
#13033: Oct 5th 2015 at 10:16:06 PM

Oh my god his turtle neck is talking!

edited 5th Oct '15 10:16:17 PM by Moritasgus

Enjoying the new Star Wars and its new Fan Canon.
Pfhorrest Since: Apr, 2011
#13034: Oct 6th 2015 at 10:41:31 AM

You know, this Matrix reference (turtleneck is quoting the Merovingian) makes me wonder if the Patriarchy matrix metaphor is supposed to be a mirror of the "red pill" metaphor used by some pickup artists.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Geoduck bivalve from Pacific Northwest Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
bivalve
#13036: Oct 6th 2015 at 2:35:36 PM

[up]There's a whole skeevy subculture of guys who say there are hard and fast "rules" to seducing women and if you just follow them you can obtain any sexual conquest you want.

http://www.mansionofe.com
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#13037: Oct 6th 2015 at 2:47:35 PM

Really, now? Unless these "hard and fast rules" are more of general principles and guidelines that can take many different forms depending on the context and specific circumstances (e.g. don't be an asshole), I'm calling bullshit on them.

... What do pickup artists have to do with the "red pill" matephor, anyway?

edited 6th Oct '15 2:48:26 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#13038: Oct 6th 2015 at 3:29:41 PM

Red pillers. Considered the MRA extreme.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#13039: Oct 6th 2015 at 3:44:10 PM

... Ugh, I think my mind broke from the strain since it's past my bedtime. I'll get some fucking sleep and then try to connect the dots between this and the Patriarchy matrix metaphor thing... assuming that someone doesn't just post an elaborate subtle-as-bricks explanation in the meantime.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#13040: Oct 6th 2015 at 3:49:25 PM

To sum it up in short to my understanding; The Patriarchy in the comic is spotted through a Red Pill, thus a bit of Irony with MRA stuff around.

Pfhorrest Since: Apr, 2011
#13041: Oct 6th 2015 at 4:13:00 PM

I think nobody's missing how Sinfest connects to the Matrix metaphor, that's pretty obvious; it's the other end of the connection some people don't seem familiar with.

In short, there's a community of men out there who use the "red pill" from the Matrix as a metaphor for men who have "realized the truth" (as they claim it) about gender relations and mens' supposed inferior place in them. There's a subreddit called /r/redpill where they gather, and there's probably other places where they use that metaphor too. (Disclaimer: I'm in no way associated with any of these people, I've just heard of them third-hand).

Basically it's the exact opposite of the way Sinfest uses the metaphor of women taking a "red pill" and "waking up" to see the Patriarchy "matrix"; in real life (well, on the real internet, not in fiction) there's a bunch of men out there who use the red pill as a metaphor for men "waking up" to see the, if you will, "Matriarchy matrix" that they claim exists.

Raylas Roundbird with knives. Knife Bird. Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Roundbird with knives. Knife Bird.
#13042: Oct 6th 2015 at 5:01:32 PM

[up][up] We don't even consider them part of the same group, actually. It's hard to call them MRA's when they don't advocate for rights for men and boys.

edited 6th Oct '15 5:01:43 PM by Raylas

Metalix Since: Apr, 2012
#13043: Oct 6th 2015 at 9:42:45 PM

http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2015-10-07

Confoundit, not again. Tats! We've talked about your padding issues before!

Medinoc Chaotic Greedy from France Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Chaotic Greedy
#13044: Oct 6th 2015 at 9:57:03 PM

But hey, I liked this joke.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#13045: Oct 6th 2015 at 9:58:33 PM

Hey, have we seen that girl before?

I don't think we have...

Metalix Since: Apr, 2012
#13046: Oct 6th 2015 at 9:59:56 PM

[up]That's one half of the angel duo who always annoyed The Devl

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#13047: Oct 6th 2015 at 11:28:52 PM

In short, there's a community of men out there who use the "red pill" from the Matrix as a metaphor for men who have "realized the truth" (as they claim it) about gender relations and mens' supposed inferior place in them. There's a subreddit called /r/redpill where they gather, and there's probably other places where they use that metaphor too. (Disclaimer: I'm in no way associated with any of these people, I've just heard of them third-hand).

Basically it's the exact opposite of the way Sinfest uses the metaphor of women taking a "red pill" and "waking up" to see the Patriarchy "matrix"; in real life (well, on the real internet, not in fiction) there's a bunch of men out there who use the red pill as a metaphor for men "waking up" to see the, if you will, "Matriarchy matrix" that they claim exists.

... Improbably convenient parallels. Do you think this is Ishida's actual point from the whole radfem angle, rather than him seriously believing in/championing the ideology?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Metalix Since: Apr, 2012
#13048: Oct 7th 2015 at 12:48:49 AM

If Tats would ever show The Sisterhood as ever being wrong in anything I'd think so. As it stands, I'd chalk it up to that rather stunning lack of self awareness that seems so endemic to Social Justice Warriors.

Raylas Roundbird with knives. Knife Bird. Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Roundbird with knives. Knife Bird.
#13049: Oct 7th 2015 at 1:04:39 AM

[up] Likewise. They have ZERO self awarness of....pretty much anything. I've seen them project traits they blatantly show onto other people that LACK THEM.

edited 7th Oct '15 1:04:54 AM by Raylas

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#13050: Oct 7th 2015 at 5:30:12 AM

From what I understand the Extremists don't even believe in the issues they are fighting for and just want attention.


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