Dragon Age

Fair enough. Just how effective are Tevene Templars, then, in that case, though?

On that note, I do love the War Table banter. The Advisors talking about Lake Bunny-had and Leliana deciding to hang Josie's unmentionables in the courtyard.

Lake Bunny-had?

Lake Calenhad, which Cullen says looks like a bunny if you look at it a certain way and Leliana thinks she sees it.

Oh.

I was hoping that Cullen was the Thedas equivalent of Jimmy Carter.

edited 30th Nov '15 10:39:54 PM by KarkatTheDalek

I mean, it does sorta look like a bunny. Like, a bunny from Fallout, maybe, but still a bunny!

Maybe templars get called so rarely in Tevinter that the Venatori just aren't used to the idea or mages not being invincible? I mean, they must have heard about what southern templars can do.

I think I remember the bit about Tevinter Templars not being able to use anti-magic powers too, and the Venatori being caught off-guard and easily overpowered because they weren't prepared for that aspect of the Inquisition's Templars.

I believe Tevinter templars are just a legacy position from before the Chantry's split and have none of the abilities of southern templars.

In Cullen's report on the war table mission 'Tevinter Resistance' he says he sent north 'real templars, the sort who can disrupt magic'. This strongly implies you're correct, and combining it with a forum post by David Gaider on 'Why don't mages go to Tevinter?', and I'd say that most Tevinter templars can't use anti-magic techniques.

edited 4th Dec '15 5:10:24 AM by Minister

If the southern countries have anti-magic templars, then why are they so nervous about war with Tevinter? Are there too few templars to actually be a threat?

Because nobody's ever forgotten that the Tevinter Imperium once ruled the entire continent. Hell, the entire core of the Andrastian religion is that Andraste drove back the Imperium. Much of Thedas is occupied by a religion premised on never letting Tevinter dominate the world again.

Tevinter's history is such that they remain the bogeyman of Thedas more because of the strength of national memory than their skills today.

edited 4th Dec '15 11:36:37 AM by TobiasDrake

Well, Tevinter has magisters. They're all high-level mages, and they sacrifice wagons of slaves to be even stronger with blood magic.

I think it's implied that an open war between the southern Thedas and Tevinter would be a terrible thing for both.

edited 4th Dec '15 11:36:15 AM by Cozzer

They're also indirectly responsible for the Circle of Mages which began specifically as a reaction to Tevinter's "Mages are kings and the rest of you are slaves to our superior magical power" attitude. And they caused the Blight. And wiped out the ancient elven kingdoms. And they have slavers operating in foreign lands, stealing citizens to be used as slaves back in the Imperium.

Basically everything in the world that sucks is because of Tevinter.

edited 4th Dec '15 11:39:20 AM by TobiasDrake

To be fair Abelas makes mention that the "Elvhenan" that Tevinter went to war with was apparently already on its last legs, him describing it as "no more than carrion picking over a corpse." It was, arguably, the creation of the Veil that primarily led to the fall of Elvhenan. Which makes sense, since the Evanuris, if Fen'Harel is to be believed, acted a lot like the Greek pantheon, what with their feuds, pettiness, and arrogance towards others.

edited 4th Dec '15 11:47:16 AM by ITNW1989

Trespasser disagrees with that "everything that sucks is because of Tevinter" thing. :P Still yeah, they've not exactly been an example on how to use power responsibily.

Well, I haven't played Trespasser yet so forgive me some minor ignorance.

Just recently got my Xbone. Once I get over my Fallout 4 addiction, I'll probably be picking up Inquisition again to hit all that DLC. I'm kind of holding out for a GOTY edition.

edited 4th Dec '15 12:26:30 PM by TobiasDrake

Tevinter is the protector of humanity against the savage oxmen.

The enemy of my enemy can kiss my ass too.

If I were forced to pick one to side with, I'd be Tevinter.

Don't forget we have a fourth side now. And I'd be pretty happy to let fantasy-nazis and fantasy-ISIS destroy each other until the Main Characters Alliance, which will definitely be a thing, can mop up the survivors.

It's the cynical form of Taking a Third Option where, instead of brokering an alliance between the two options and ending hostilities, you tell both sides to go f*ck themselves and move your own troops in.

There's nothing cynical about that from my point of view.

Well, I'll be happy to be an agent of peace as soon as fantasy-ISIS tells me they removed that "people who don't follow our religion can't be allowed to exist becasue they're suboptimal" clause and fantasy-nazis tell me they grew out of their slave-sacrificing habit. Until then, I'll gladly be an agent of fuck them. Obiviously that goes for the fourth side too, which I'm tempted to brand fantasy-SJ Ws.

What are you talking about?

Fantasy ISIS = The Qun, due to their penchant for cold-blooded assassination of those who leave their religion, because those who hear the word cannot deny the word, just like ISIS believes.

Fantasy Nazis = Tevinter, though the parallel is (no offense) less apt but damn close due to their usage of slave labor and enjoyment of murdering said slaves for use in blood magic rituals.