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seasaltcaramelcookie Since: Jun, 2023
#1: Apr 8th 2024 at 6:18:10 PM

Almost entirely consists of examples for the banned Conrad Stargard series. I propose to either make the Conrad Stargard (The Cross-Time Engineer) link a redirect to the author, or cut the author page.

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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
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#3: Apr 12th 2024 at 6:16:44 AM

[up]It's listed under The Cross Time Engineer.

Does anyone know why it was banned?

Edited by StarSword on Apr 12th 2024 at 9:18:37 AM

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#5: Apr 12th 2024 at 10:11:48 AM

It's about an engineer going back to the Middle Ages and thoroughly taking advantage of the fact that age of consent laws don't exist, especially when he's a knight and the girl is a peasant.

StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
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#6: Apr 12th 2024 at 2:57:16 PM

Oh, yuck. Yeah, screw that.

In that case I'm inclined to cut this creator page, too.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Apr 12th 2024 at 3:13:36 PM

Agreed - the entire list of examples is from CS, which means that we'd have to give an effective Example Sectionectomy and frankly that's not worth the effort.

animuacid Animu from Suginomiya district Since: Jan, 2024
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#8: Apr 12th 2024 at 3:47:02 PM

[up][up][up] How old is she? How explicit is this aspect, are there any sex scenes? Does it happen in only one of the books in the Conrad series?

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#9: Apr 12th 2024 at 4:40:28 PM

Going from a review here:

My other reason for unease is also the reason I'll not be reading further books in the series. Conrad spends a lot of his time at Okoitz boffing, usually but not always singly, the "handmaidens" kept around the castle by Count Lambert for this use by himself and his guests. That it's all a bit masturbatory is forgivable. The trouble is that these wenches, who're essentially paid servants and unpaid harlots, are underage — and not just trivially so: they're 14. On discovering, early on, quite how young his bedmates are, Conrad has a minor crisis of conscience, confesses to a priest, etc., but then tells himself that in 13th-century Poland 14 was a marriageable age, after all, ho ho, and carries on boffing. This really unsettles me. I don't think the "marriageable age" argument washes. In terms of a time traveller from the 20th century, those girls are mere adolescents — in fact, Conrad occasionally remarks on the schoolgirlishness of his favourite underage mistress — and those are surely the terms in which said traveller must judge his own actions.

So, the multiple women he gets (he's not into getting married) are 14 and described as schoolgirls. As for explicit sex scenes, I don't know if it gets there but this post is an excerpt of the leadup (NSFW alert) and it pretty clearly crosses the tipping point for me, especially as it is not an isolated incident.

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#10: Apr 12th 2024 at 6:13:15 PM

Yeah, I also think the hero being concerned about fucking 14 year olds and then absolving himself in a way narratively framed as justified makes the ban warranted

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seasaltcaramelcookie Since: Jun, 2023
#14: Apr 13th 2024 at 9:46:33 AM

Reply to Ramidel: Dear god, the degree this Western book plays crappy isekai light novel tropes straight, up to and including loli slave harem, is chilling.

Edited by seasaltcaramelcookie on Apr 13th 2024 at 10:06:11 AM

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#15: Apr 13th 2024 at 10:44:05 AM

Yeah. Predates the isekai boom (and the internet publishing system that enables it) too.

So yeah, tempted to just light this page on fire. Any objections?

seasaltcaramelcookie Since: Jun, 2023
#16: Apr 13th 2024 at 5:05:38 PM

I'd suggest we keep the author page and the work list, but ban Conrad Stargard examples with a warning, and wipe the current examples list. As in the "keeping clean stuff only" treatment.

EDIT: Oh god, throw the author page in a bonfire, and maybe consider doing something about the New Kashubia Series too; according to a review, that series contains multiple instances of mechanophilia.

Edited by seasaltcaramelcookie on Apr 13th 2024 at 5:27:41 AM

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#17: Apr 13th 2024 at 5:29:18 PM

[up] well, assuming that's sexual attraction to cars, we don't have a rule against that. Weird, but not actually harmful

cut the one with the 14 yr olds tho

Edited by Tremmor19 on Apr 13th 2024 at 8:30:15 AM

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#18: Apr 13th 2024 at 8:01:23 PM

Yeah, mechanophilia isn't against our rules unless it's purely pornographic

I think we should stop using the author page to run-around Cross Time Engineer or w/e being unacceptable though

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#19: Apr 14th 2024 at 1:41:16 PM

drop a nuke on it

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animuacid Animu from Suginomiya district Since: Jan, 2024
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#20: Apr 14th 2024 at 1:46:24 PM

Cut the novels with the 14 yos.

Edited by animuacid on Apr 14th 2024 at 11:23:59 AM

StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
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#21: Apr 14th 2024 at 2:21:19 PM

Okay, so it looks like our proposals are:

  1. Cut the entire page.
  2. Remove just the Cross-Time Engineer examples. Note that if we did so, we'd have only one example left on the Creator page.

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#22: Apr 14th 2024 at 4:20:59 PM

I think if we'd have one example left it's best to cut the whole page

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#23: Apr 14th 2024 at 6:10:54 PM

[up]That was kinda my feeling too.

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#25: Apr 15th 2024 at 4:42:14 AM

Yeah, and I've got no inclination to bother saving this Creator page given it's mostly being used as an end-run around a previous cut.


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