TVTropes Entries Need Hierarchical Pyramid-Style Trope Entries/Indexes Restructure

The act of crafting and organizing tropes, is an art, not a science.

Picking what is a "higher level" or "broader" trope and what is a "lower level" or "narrower" trope is a subjective art.

But the resulting simple pyramid navigation to tropes that are placed in the most fitting possible categories, would result in a superior user experience, compared to the present mix of sub-optimal organization and randomness.

It is justified to take authoritative liberties in what tropes are higher-level and lower-level if it means making things as coherently organized and navigable as possible.

You have not answered several questions about this proposal (that will never get implemented even if they are answered, probably, because these are generally flatly bad ideas.)

1. Why is navigability good when no one uses the site for navigability? What would justify the time spent?

2. Why is your hierarchy chain so long when the longest currently extant chains are far shorter? Must we have a supersupertrope at the top of a pyramid? If so, why?

3. Why is your proposed solution better for navigability when the visual example you provided looks, to put it lightly, terrible, not just for visual appeal, but for navigability as well.

4. Do you just not like the aesthetics, or do you have an actual metric that can tell us that the aesthetics actively make the site unusable (the answer is the former for almost certain)

5. You bring up Wikipedia. Wikipedia does not have this organizational structure you propose, and they do fine for themselves. Even if the resources existed to change our structure, and the will existed to change it, why would we change it to something like what you suggest, and not something closer to the wikipedia model, which is not only broadly similar to the TVT model, but also seems to work just fine?

6. Where did you get the confidence to pop up out of nowhere with no editing experience and no prior forum posts and announce that there should be a full site redesign? As you cannot prove you've had any prior experience with the site and keep talking about ideas that clearly don't understand how TVT's page maintenance is performed, you are not even remotely qualified to be making these assessments, unless there's other information missing that you're failing to share.

7. There are probably other questions that I'm missing that you missed. Answer those too if you can.

Also, no, organizing tropes is not closer to an art than a science. This is because tropes have specific definitions and designations, and they're not something you can just reorganize all willy-nilly to fit an individual vision. You're ignoring us any time we point out the Super-Trope / Sub-Trope thing, which is our current way of having a trope "hierarchy", and how it's based on definition, not broad sweeping topics.

I'm sorry but this just won't work on TVTropes. Like others have already told you, and what you don't seem to understand, is that tropes can't be structured in a pyramid because the trope structure is not a uniform ladder. Not all "internet slang tropes" will be "internet meme tropes" and some things you classified there wouldn't be tropeworthy at all. It would result in needless shoehorning to force the structure to look like it works when it won't. We are not Know Your Meme, we are TVTropes.

We have Super-Trope and Sub-Trope but also Sister Trope and tropes that are inversions of other tropes and tropes that aren't really related to any other tropes. Also, Tropes Are Flexible, they cannot be shoved into rigid tiers. This can't be simplified into an up-and-down linear structure because the relationships are not linear.

Also, just a personal opinion here, I do not like the structure of KYM. It's garish and each entry takes up too much space.

I suggest exploring and using this site as a Troper and observe how this site works currently, instead of insisting on this problem when you have no knowledge on how this site works. There's not much wrong with how the site is structured now, and anything that is does not require such a drastic solution.

A lot of content in a long accurate folder hierarchy is far more navigable than a short few folders of the same sprawling content. Wikipedia would benefit from a more visual mapped interface, but their present interface comfortably suffices because it has a panel on the right of many of their articles that lists how they are sub-articles of broader topics, and how they tie into each other. Combined with heavy usage of links to their own articles on broadly applicable topics such as Philosophy, Politics, Science, etcetera, things feel thought-out and intuitive to navigate. Navigating here just feels like a randomized mess. Super and sub denotes a two-tier system of organization, which artificially limits the ability to organize into potentially far taller folder trees, resulting in less overall navigability. Super and sub does not benefit, linking articles to broader articles suffices. Calling an article more "super" or "sub" or less, is not necessary to the organizational process, and strikes me as a rather outdated non-scalable organization method.

While I do think the website could benefit from pyramidal structure in some cases, I think you're missing the point.

Virtually everybody comes to this site because they just saw a show. They type the name of the show into the search bar. The show's page lists the tropes which take them to the trope list.

What you're proposing is not how anybody actually uses this site.

That, or they find a link to a trope elsewhere on the internet and spend hours on a Wiki Walk, which works perfectly fine with the current organization system.