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NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#1: Sep 10th 2022 at 3:44:59 AM

A problem I occasionally notice that isn't talked about much is "exhaustive listing", where people list every single instance of a trope happening in a franchise even though it's not relevant to the point. Take this example from Trivia.Animal Crossing 2001:

In the early days of its development, Dōbutsu no Mori was planned to take advantage of the 64DD's internal clock in order to be able to run the game in real time. However, after the 64DD turned out to be a commercial failure, the project was shifted over to a standard N64 cartridge (which it was ultimately released on), leading the real-time clock to have to be operated by a battery-powered chip in the cartridge itself due to the standard N64 not having an internal clock of its own. The updated re-releases, meanwhile, were able to take advantage of the GameCube's own internal clock, thus fulfilling the original plan for the game's real-time clock feature. As the DS, Wii, 3DS, and Switch also all have internal clocks of their own, this means the trope also carries over to the actual sequels as well.

I just changed the bolded part to "Since all of Nintendo's subsequent consoles have internal clocks of their own," in order to prevent people from having to indefinitely edit the example whenever a new Animal Crossing game comes out.

Big franchises attract a lot of this. FranchiseOriginalSin.Pokemon contains a huge paragraph describing every single Pikaclone, including a labelnote about the anime, even though most of it isn't relevant to the overall point. Similarly, I edited the Pokémon example on Fictional Earth a few months ago because it needlessly described every Gen 5+ region.

Should there be a cleanup thread for this?

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#2: Sep 10th 2022 at 3:48:32 AM

Well, the point of TV Tropes is the tropes, there is no other "point". I'd only worry if a lot of examples aren't actually legitimate. For overlong example lists, we make dedicated subpages.

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#3: Sep 10th 2022 at 4:17:58 AM

I agree that this exhaustive listing is a problem, especially if it becomes outdated. I had to remove mentions of post-XP Windows systems from Trivia.I Wanna Be The Guy.

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NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#4: Sep 10th 2022 at 4:51:30 AM

[up][up]I meant, the point that specific example is trying to make.

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#5: Sep 10th 2022 at 5:38:49 AM

Well, OK, exhaustively listing consoles and the like when you aren't providing a lot of details on each is useless. But I have to emphasize that there is a difference between exhaustively cataloguing trope examples and the above example.

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NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#6: Sep 10th 2022 at 8:33:18 AM

[up]I definitely should've worded my post better. I meant, we don't need to know what each Pokémon region is based on to understand that it takes place on a Fictional Earth, because that's better-covered by Fantasy Counterpart Culture.

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#7: Sep 17th 2022 at 10:33:46 PM

As the person who added that text in the Animal Crossing trivia point, I'll say that it didn't strike me as much of an issue at the time, but in hindsight it definitely does open the door to becoming outdated if/when another mainline Animal Crossing game comes out on a later console. The rewrite avoids that issue, and I prefer it for that reason.

As for a cleanup thread, I'm a bit on the fence about it, because while comprehensive listing can become a problem if it starts ballooning to a big enough extent, it doesn't seem to be as disruptive as a lot of other issues targeted by cleanup threads (e.g. rampant trope misuse, natter, excess complaining and/or gushing, etc.).

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