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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#26: Feb 26th 2022 at 6:32:31 PM

Can we find some other more complex phrase for the disambig page than "Diary"? A word like this just lends itself to further misuse in example lists.

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#27: Feb 26th 2022 at 6:34:23 PM

The point is to lead people back to the disambig page if it's accidentally linked. Making it a more complex name defeats the point of having it at all.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#28: Feb 26th 2022 at 6:39:07 PM

But there's gonna be a clean-up effort anyway, right?

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#29: Feb 26th 2022 at 6:43:55 PM

Of course.

The point is, if we aren't making Diary the disambig, we shouldn't make a disambig for the concept at all. There's zero point in having a disambig nobody would ever find organically (such as through inbound links or google searches).

I mean, scroll through Ambiguity Index for a moment. See how many of them are just one-word concepts, such as Wish and Orange.

We also have a cleanup thread for disambigs that keep getting use, and have been discussing ways to crack down on people using them, such as an icon for the index or even just a "don't do that" notifier.

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#30: Feb 26th 2022 at 7:18:15 PM

Dear Diary,

It is always a good idea to make Diary a disambig page.

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#31: Feb 26th 2022 at 9:03:57 PM

[up] I agree with it. We should consider making Diary a disambiguation page for several tropes regarding diaries, and cutting the Zero-Context Examples and the People Sit on Chairs examples.

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#32: Feb 27th 2022 at 9:33:28 AM

I have found this TLP. This seems to be more tropeworthy in regards to diaries.

And this for the "Dear Diary..." narration.

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Feb 28th 2022 at 1:34:24 AM

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#33: Feb 27th 2022 at 12:12:45 PM

Regarding the discussion at the top of this page, what would be the point of renaming a disambiguation page? Disambiguating would mean we'd be removing all wicks except for Ambiguity Index and archived wicks anyway.

Also, the tropes that alnair linked to could be listed on the disambiguation page after they're launched.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 27th 2022 at 2:13:54 PM

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#35: Feb 28th 2022 at 2:40:37 PM

What was proposed besides disambiguating?

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#37: Feb 28th 2022 at 2:42:11 PM

I don't know if we need a crowner just because everyone seems to be in agreement. Mostly, anyway. Enough to have consensus.

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#38: Feb 28th 2022 at 2:50:47 PM

Yeah, we have more than enough people in agreement to forgo a crowner.

So, calling in favor of disambiguating Diary and expanding Epistolary Novel to cover diaries.

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#39: Feb 28th 2022 at 2:57:43 PM

Current diambig options:

Epistolary Novel has this: "Later on, books evolved to start using other devices than just letters. This gave rise to the Scrapbook Story format, of which this can be considered a subtrope.", doesn't Scrapbook Story already cover the expansion idea then?

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#40: Feb 28th 2022 at 3:01:59 PM

I tweaked Epistolary Novel's description a bit to account for the fact that documents other than letters can be used. I used Wikipedia's article on the subject as a reference for what types of Fictional Documents can be used. Here's the page history.

I'll go disambiguate Diary if that hasn't been done already.

Edit: Done.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 28th 2022 at 5:20:22 AM

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#41: Mar 4th 2022 at 9:08:44 AM

Everything's done here, so closing.

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