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JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat Joseph D. Pelobello/Daniel William from Auckland, New Zealand Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#1: May 17th 2021 at 10:57:04 PM

Should the Revelation 12 2017 sign prophecy be mentioned in Constellations?

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Revelation 12 talks about a pregnant woman (the Church), "clothed with the Sun and with the Moon under her feet", with a crown of 12 stars on her head, giving birth to a male child (Jesus). A dragon (the devil) wants to devour the child, but the woman is snatched away to the wilderness. Michael and the angels fight the devil; the latter loses and is thrown down to the Earth. The dragon continues to pursue the woman and makes war with the rest of her children. It tries to drown her by spewing water out of its mouth, which is absorbed by the ground.

The sign occurred on 23 September 2017, when Jupiter (= male child) exited the "womb" of Virgo (= woman) after nine months in the "womb" (a human gestation period). Furthermore, nearly a year earlier, a comet passed through Virgo, which some believe symbolizes the divine conception of the male child. On 09/23/2017 the Sun obscured Virgo and the crescent moon was at the "feet" of the constellation. Mercury, Mars, and Venus joined Leo's nine prominent stars to form the crown of 12 stars above the woman's head. The dragon consists of Taurus, Aries, the Pleiades, and part of Cetus and Pisces. The wave of water it spews out is represented by Auriga. Michael fighting the dragon is represented by Orion.

The sign pertains to the Apocalypse How beliefs involving the Rapture and the Great Tribulation. There are some nice images online of this; what do you think?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2: May 18th 2021 at 12:45:52 AM

I am quite wary of this addition as the page currently has no similar content and it feels like a crank theory anyhow.

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#3: May 18th 2021 at 12:46:48 AM

Maybe it could fit under Mythology and Religion, but even then I'm not sure.

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JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat Joseph D. Pelobello/Daniel William from Auckland, New Zealand Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Joseph D. Pelobello/Daniel William
#4: May 18th 2021 at 11:41:29 AM

"I am quite wary of this addition as the page currently has no similar content and it feels like a crank theory anyhow."

It's true this is a "crank theory" but this was all over the news during that year.

It should be noted that, due to Judeo-Christian beliefs being independent from pagan mythologies, the Judeo-Christian zodiac (as in this case) would be slightly different. However others have suggested that the arrangement of the 12 Israelite tribes around Yahweh's tent is symbolized by the zodiac (such as Judah represented by Leo; Jesus is the Lion of Judah, and Dan represented by Scorpio, due to both being likened to serpents).

Others have dismissed the sign as hogwash; furthermore (for them) it seems to fit the criteria of astrology, which is forbidden in Judaism and Christianity. However, Genesis 1:14 and Luke 21:25 say that signs will appear in the sky.

Edited by JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat on May 19th 2021 at 6:47:23 AM

Joseph D. Pelobello/Daniel William "Danny" Wilson
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#5: May 18th 2021 at 12:29:36 PM

Uh... sure, but the point that literally nothing else on the page is about prophecies stands. The page is dedicated to listing constellations, not beliefs about them.

JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat Joseph D. Pelobello/Daniel William from Auckland, New Zealand Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Joseph D. Pelobello/Daniel William
#6: May 18th 2021 at 12:44:06 PM

We could mention it instead in Book of Revelation; would that be a better option?

Additionally, the website https://theheavensdeclare.net attempts to rewrite all the constellations in a Biblical view.

Edited by JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat on May 19th 2021 at 7:50:53 AM

Joseph D. Pelobello/Daniel William "Danny" Wilson
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#7: May 18th 2021 at 1:02:39 PM

Also no, because that is about people seeing things and tying it to Revelation; it has nothing to do with what's actually textual.

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#8: May 18th 2021 at 6:43:15 PM

I kind of feel like you're trying to insert religious prophecy into our wiki, ~JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat. Please do not do that. We aren't interested in being preached at.

Edited by Fighteer on May 18th 2021 at 9:43:22 AM

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#9: May 18th 2021 at 6:55:28 PM

I almost suggested we put it in WMG, but that might be offensive. tongue But it is just a theory and we can't do anything with it.

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#10: May 18th 2021 at 7:06:45 PM

I am really disinclined to put religious prophecy on our site. Like seriously.

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JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat Joseph D. Pelobello/Daniel William from Auckland, New Zealand Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Joseph D. Pelobello/Daniel William
#11: May 18th 2021 at 10:00:29 PM

I understand that you don't want mention of the sign to be added, so we'll leave it at there.

I don't take the sign as seriously as other Christian (eschatologists) do. Also, I'm NOT forcing my religious beliefs on this site. I've already been banned from other wikis for doing so.

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MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#12: May 19th 2021 at 4:10:24 AM

Also, I'm NOT forcing my religious beliefs on this site. I've already been banned from other wikis for doing so.

That really isn't as reassuring as you think it is.

Edited by MorganWick on May 19th 2021 at 4:11:50 AM

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