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Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
#51: Apr 24th 2021 at 2:07:31 PM

I wrote something similar to the intro of Kick The Son Of A Bitch for two of the most misused definitions, Villain: Exit, Stage Left and Not What I Signed on For. Its below and others can grade it.

Compare: * Villain: Exit, Stage Left: General Drake having lost his sword in person combat by the hero, Alice, and seeing his soldiers are at a disadvantage against Alice’s friend Bob, withdraws his troops and orders a tactical retreat. As Drale rides away on his horse, he promises Alice and Bob, they haven't seen the last of him, as he rides away.

  • Not What I Signed Up For: General Drake gasps in response to his orders from Emperor Evulz to cut down unarmed civilians, he throws away his sword and uniform away in disgust and goes off to warns Alice and Bob of the Evulz’s plans.

  • Screw This, I'm Outta Here: General Bob upon seeing the fearsome Alice and her Big Freaking Sword on the battlefield, glances at his own short sword then at Alice, and then throws his sword and uniform on the ground. As General Drake runs off the battlefield, he tells one of his soldiers, “tell Evulz, he ain’t paying me enough for this job, I quit!”

Basically Screw This, I'm Outta Here is always done by a Dirty Coward, whilst Villain: Exit, Stage Left is Know When to Fold 'Em and is often done by intelligent characters who may also be brave and valiant or even a Blood Knight. Not What I Signed Up For is done for moral reasons rather then cowardice.

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#52: Apr 24th 2021 at 2:18:36 PM

Uh... You realize we're expanding it, right? That definition is outdated now.

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Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
#53: Apr 24th 2021 at 5:21:03 PM

So its just a disambiguation/definition page now?

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#54: Apr 24th 2021 at 5:53:37 PM

No? Why would you think that? Our Sandbox is just drafting the new description. The examples are staying. It's still a trope.

Did you read the rest of the thread? You should probably read the rest of the thread.

Edited by WarJay77 on Apr 24th 2021 at 8:54:05 AM

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#55: Apr 24th 2021 at 6:04:13 PM

Double post, but I made a minor tweak to Crazy's description just to make it more clear that the abandoned don't have to be friends or allies. Other than that, I think their version is solid. Anyone ready to swap it in? Or do we need a crowner to determine which version we use?

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#56: Apr 24th 2021 at 6:08:37 PM

The last part comparing Line in the Sand and Opt Out still needs work. And Not What I Signed on For should be mentioned as a related trope.

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#57: Apr 24th 2021 at 6:11:15 PM

What would you suggest as an update?

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#58: Apr 24th 2021 at 9:29:04 PM

Sandbox.Screw This Im Outta Here

From Opt Out's description, it seems like Screw This, I'm Outta Here may be a subtrope of that:

One person has decided he isn't going to take part in the upcoming finale. Whether he's merely choosing not to cross the Line in the Sand or simply declaring "Screw This, I'm Outta Here." [...] Or perhaps things have simply gone too far and he just can't take it anymore.

On the more selfish/pragmatic end of the scale, this character could just want to be normal and use a chance to get away from the craziness once it's presented. [...] They could also just be a Dirty Coward.

On the other hand, "decided he isn't going to take part in the upcoming finale" seems narrower than the new definition of STIOH, in which case they'd be overlapping instead of super-subtrope.

Either way, STIOH would be one of the ways in which a character can Opt Out. So maybe something like:

One of the ways in which a character may choose to Opt Out. May happen as a result of a Not What I Signed on For moment. Contrast with Line in the Sand, when all characters on a team are given the option to leave.

I thought about leaving "and the narrative is generally making an effort to paint those that do leave in a more favourable light compared to the lone deserter who skulks off in secret or gleefully and randomly ditches their team." on the end there, but since STIOH can be portrayed sympathetically, I thought it might be best to focus on a more constant difference.

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#59: Apr 25th 2021 at 12:06:34 PM

I think that line works.

We can also probably cut my attempt from the sandbox, and just focus on updating the one Crazy wrote.

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Jobyrdthegamerbyrd Since: Aug, 2017
#60: Apr 25th 2021 at 7:58:46 PM

If we’re going for a remand I think I came up with one: Danger Ditching. So that way the trope works but it only tailors to one specific event instead of multiple. Though we can keep the STIOH name as like an index or something.

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#61: Apr 25th 2021 at 7:59:41 PM

[up] We're not renaming. Again, please read the rest of the thread. The crowner is done and the course has already been decided.

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#62: Apr 29th 2021 at 10:08:19 PM

Bump...anyone else want to weigh in on the sandbox?

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#63: Apr 30th 2021 at 8:07:32 AM

I think it's good.

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#64: May 1st 2021 at 8:17:35 PM

Anyone else?

Honestly, if we swap it in and there's still minor improvements that are needed, those can be taken care of after-the-fact, right? Things don't need to be 100% perfect, and I think the sandbox is pretty solid.

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underCoverSailsman Peeks from Under Rocks from State of Flux Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#65: May 1st 2021 at 8:27:07 PM

I think it works as-is. If cleanup runs into snags, it can be refined.

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#66: May 1st 2021 at 8:29:54 PM

We don't even really have to do any cleanup, since 90% of the examples will be valid. We can just remove misuse when we come across it or make a short-term thread to catch the 10% of misuse examples.

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gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
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#67: May 1st 2021 at 9:05:58 PM

The sandbox looks good to me.

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#68: May 1st 2021 at 9:09:42 PM

Swapped in the compare/contrast bit I suggested.

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#69: May 2nd 2021 at 2:15:45 AM

And swapped the sandbox into the article. Anything else to do?

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#70: May 2nd 2021 at 10:06:18 AM

I'm good with calling it done.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#71: May 2nd 2021 at 10:32:54 AM

OK, calling it done then.

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