My Hero Academia - Manga Spoiler thread (Untagged spoilers)

Surprised how many people thought it would go any other way then this.

Not that agree with it. Just 100% expected this is how Nana's moment would go.

Edited by diddyknux on Mar 14th 2024 at 2:28:11 PM

Hmm, I think we'll be finishing up in July or September tops at this rate

... I wrote something supremely angry here about what a whiny, ungrateful, selfish sack of shit Kotaro was for using his abandonment issues as an excuse to abuse his family... but I read it through and realized I'd probably get thumped for it, so I retracted it.

Still, the statement stands; Fuck you, Kotaro, for blaming Nana for your own actions. She didn't make you beat up Tenko and intimidate the rest of your family into silence; That was all on you, buddy boy. If you'd just stopped to think of anyone but yourself for once and taken some responsibility for your own actions, starting with not beating up your kids just for daring to dream about something you didn't approve of, none of this would've happened.

Now, go in there and verbally smack some sense into him, Grandma! And I don't even care if it's not actually him - Just (verbally) tear him a new asshole!

Edited by MagmaTeaMerry on Mar 14th 2024 at 2:04:06 PM

Doesn't this whole situation seem kind of weird when you compare it to Endeavor and Toya?

Endeavor abusing his family was a horrible thing, but Midoriya makes a point of saying that Toya's actions and decisions since he then are his own, and his fault, NOT Endeavor's. Even though the family feels guilty and that Toya is their responsibility, the narrative at least made the effort to point out that there is a limit to where their ACTUAL culpability ends.

So... Even if Nana leaving Kotaro was the wrong decision, his beating is kids is his fault, not Nana's. So from a character perspective I can understand Nana beating herself up over it, but the story really could use a moment to go "No, its not your fault!" for her.

Edited by diddyknux on Mar 14th 2024 at 8:16:45 AM

Perhaps she is feeling so bad about it due to thinking that she didn't even leave a message or a note for her son explaining why she did what she did for him to read once he got older and could deal with the info without completely losing it?

That said, now when she is with him, even as a memory, then the catalyst for Tenko's fall into villainy have been removed out from the picture (the murder of his abusive father), leaving now Izuku to deal with a scared little boy who just awoken his quirk and no clue what is going on.

If he can save him now, then the source of Tomura's hatred will lose its power and fade out. Hopefully.

Or Shiggy rejects everything and mentally shuts down, ending up in a similar pinch to the Big Bad at the end of Assassination Classroom.

Or he rejects everything and still wants to destroy everything that can be destroyed.

So, uh, why were Deku's hands shining in the middle when he "broke the barrier" that was separating him and Nana from Tenko and Kotaro? Is it that All for One and One for All are in "direct contact" that one quirk is influencing the other?

So Midorya is now back to being quirk-less (with some fumes from OFA)? Or does he still have the "base version" of OFA?

Also, has it been said whether Eri's ability can restore stolen (not erased) quirks?

I think Deku will still have the power stockpiled.

The one AFO gave to his brother so long ago?

He still has the stockpiled Super-Strength + Black Whip. Yoichi straight up tells Banjo to stick with Izuku to the end, and given Black Whip's usefulness it's not hard to see why.

Early in the latest chapter, Nana mentions she is the last one, even pointing out Banjo (and therefore Blackwhip) is gone.

Really? I must have missed that. Then yeah, just Super-Strength.

Edit: Ah, I see it. The part where Nana is the last one left.

Edited by reppuzan on Mar 22nd 2024 at 4:16:29 AM

The way this is playing out with Nana, it might also be possible for the vestiges to come back to him.

Chapter 418: A Small Heart

The chapter begins with Deku feeling the same as in Jaku — when he saw Tenko deep inside. He tries to stop the tragedy, but it's too late: Tenko kills Mon and his sister arrives. Deku then turns into a child and holds Tenko's hands to stop the decay before he kills Hana

Deku starts to decay, but since this is an "imaginary world", he just has to keep visualizing his hand holding Shigaraki's — he won't let go of it. Tenko asks why he's doing this and Deku, eyes full of tears, says it's because he's crying

Tenko says that he chose to kill his family and destroy that house. That's what he keeps telling himself, because otherwise he'll never understand why he was born that way. Deku feels Tenko's emotions coming directly at him and says that he can't let go of his hand yet

Hatred/catharsis and sadness/confusion are balanced inside Tenko rn. He tells Deku to go away and remembers all the people who ignored him on the street, but Deku says that he feels relief when someone holds his hand — as he remembers Iida during the dark deku rescue

"That's why... I'm here." Deku and Tenko start to vanish and, on the next page, we see Tenko playing with two kids on the playground: Mikkun and Tomo-chan. Tomo-chan says that Tenko can play as All Might and he smiles

"I'm a villain. I hate and destroy things". The little Tenko that was next to Deku comes back and, behind him, we see the whole League — including Twice. "Even if all my hatred goes away and I turn empty, I still need to become a hero to all those guys — the villains"

We see some people cheering for Shigaraki to destroy the world and a cop says that the fingers are disappearing. Just as things are starting to get better... it cuts to black. We then see Kotaro Shimura talking to a mysterious man from a construction company.............

"Has Tenko's quirk manifested yet?" "Not yet...." .............

Shigaraki says he doesn't know what those memories are. Deku also realizes that these memories are not Tenko's. Kotaro is having dinner with this mysterious man and drinking wine. He asks about Tenko's quirk and... a giant AFO head appears in the vestige world!!!

"You foolish vessel. This useless boy was about to make you give up? You want to become stronger, but you've never gotten rid of your weakness... what a fool, Tenko Shimura. To this day, you've never made a single decision on your own." Vestige AFO is back! End of chapte

Kotaro, you fowl-flinging fish finger fiddler!

Also AFO GTFO! You're supposed to be DEAD!

Edited by Trainbarrel on Mar 27th 2024 at 5:25:45 PM

So are we actually doing the "AFO was responsible for Tenko's shitty childhood" thing?

that's hilarious

sigh, somehow afo returned

...was...was he meeting with his mother's murderer?

....no. No I need more context.

Before I can hate, I must see.

afo was supposed to be like a myth most people didnt know what he looked like.

You think that All for One is finished so easily? Like any classic villain with Joker Immunity, he always finds a way.

But like the Joker of Arkham Knight, we do see what he fears most...

Being forgotten. That he amounts to nothing.

Prediction: He'll be revealed to have been the one who ruined Tenko's life, and Shigaraki will absolutely rip him to pieces because of this

what a shame kacchan isn't here to call him a side character

Edited by asterism on Mar 27th 2024 at 4:32:47 PM

lets be honest as soon as afo mentioned a trump card with his vestige we knew this was coming. you dont have someone mention a trump card and not flip it