TLP Experiment Aftermath Discussion and Analysis

See, it's interesting to note that people have differing philosophies when it comes to bombs. The way I personally see them, they aren't a permanent mark against a draft. They're just a warning. A way to say "hey, this isn't ready to launch yet, fix the lingering issues first". They're the anti-hat and our only reliable tool of preventing a premature launch.

While they can also mean "discard", it totally depends on context.

I'd probably be more liberal with bombs if they did what they were supposed to do, which is take away hats and prevent rogue launching. And while the bombs can visually hint at a draft not being ready for launch, I rarely throw a bomb unless I feel the draft is not at all viable in its current state, because too many bombs can lead to rogue discards for an article that wasn't at that state yet.

If I might ask, I know rogue launches are a problem, but do rogue discards occur at a comparable frequency? And can a discarded draft be returned to the tlp the way a launched draft can?

Rogue discards actually happen more often because people don't realize it's a problem to discard with no discussion. However, they're far easier to restore; just go to the discard page, find the draft, and hit "restore".

They don't happen at nearly the same rate. It's usually either someone discarding their own draft without a reason or a troll.

The only cases of "rouge discarding" I see happening is when someone discards their own trope without saying why even when the idea was viable. And yes it's easily to fix as one just as to press the restore button on the discards list.

I actually see it far more often from parties who see a draft with 5 bombs and decides to discard it even if discussion is happening. It happens a lot from the sponsors too, but that's not the same thing.

Is it Too Soon after that TLP mass-suspension incident to post that "Instrumental Slapstick" draft temporarily descriptionless as Schmuck Bait?

Edited by Miss_Desperado on Sep 19th 2020 at 10:47:29 AM

Yes.

I mean, what are you trying to prove, that people don't like stub drafts? We already know that and even without the 5T incident having been just a few weeks ago, it's kinda mean to post something specifically as Shmuck Bait when you're fully capable of doing the proper work and are just trying to goad people into bombing you. There's nothing to prove from it.

Post it descriptionless if you have to but don't do it as an experiment.

Edited by WarJay77 on Sep 19th 2020 at 1:52:39 PM

At least attempt a description so it doesn't get a bunch of preventable early bombs, even ifyou need assistance to clean it up.

If you actually need a description, I can write one given some time.

I don’t see any point in posting a descriptionless draft just to see what happens. It’s not like that doesn’t happen all the time for real, and we all know what happens then.

A mod gets a migraine?

But in all seriousness, I don't see the point in a "test" blank draft either.

I've been trying, I really do need a description — literally all I was able to scrounge up besides examples since I last posted in the Trope Idea Sounding Board is this...

That's a good start. Just post a comment saying you need help with the description- people will see that you're earnestly trying and will hold fire.

An oblivious instrument player may continue to play, hitting the stuck person. Happened in one of the Tom & Jerry shorts — Tom got launched at a marching drum and his body got stuck in it with his rear end sticking out, and the player continued to play, hitting Tom's rear with the mallet.