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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#26: Dec 23rd 2019 at 11:47:55 AM

This is the most normal hair style I've seen for a Yu-Gi-Oh! protagonist since Jaden.

MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#27: Dec 23rd 2019 at 4:26:39 PM

BTW it seems like the main protag's ace has 2100 ATK, meaning that bar a Neos-like twist, Firewall Dragon has officially killed off the 2500 ATK ace trendtongue

Irene Since: Aug, 2012
#28: Dec 23rd 2019 at 6:36:18 PM

Fitting for a first one, considering Flame Wingman was Jaden's original ace, and 2100. It seems like 2100 is a common one for a main character to have at least once as well.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#29: Dec 23rd 2019 at 7:19:18 PM

There is also the 2300 Junk Warrior and Decode Talker.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#30: Dec 23rd 2019 at 8:24:14 PM

Yeah. I was thinking of Junk Warrior (though I forgot Decode Talker was 2300).

So we might see the kid get his proper ace later.

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mythbuster Since: Jan, 2010
#31: Dec 23rd 2019 at 10:33:44 PM

@lalalei A rather strange manga about teenagers using "libido" to fight the tyranny of Japan's "Grown-Up Party."

Irene Since: Aug, 2012
#32: Dec 24th 2019 at 3:04:55 AM

Gaia the Fierce Knight is Yugi's core 2300 guy, and used fairly often until the Battle City rules. Summoned Skull's play for a while was mostly due to weird rules being activated to justify it. Usually electricity-based stuff.

Chimera the Flying Mythical Beast was his 2100 guy, mostly used in Battle City due to the new rules making it actually a nice play. Tribute to get your other fusion material is a smart move. Searching cards weren't used often either, so it does stand out a bit.

I wish he used Swift Gaia the Fierce Knight more often. It'd also have been nice if they created Sky Galloping Gaia The Dragon Champion(I might've said the name wrong) wayyyyyyyyyyyy earlier. That would've been something great to make Swift Gaia totally worth it other than a rare move(which wasn't practical either).

Edited by Irene on Dec 24th 2019 at 11:18:05 AM

Nickpws Since: Dec, 2014
#33: Dec 24th 2019 at 3:14:09 AM

You really can't use the OG as a trend setter for very many things. Even the 2500 ace thing wasn't a constant until the GX writers were like "eeeeh let's invent neos" since, up to that point, Flame Wingman was most certainly Judai's go-to signature.

Either Sevens Road turns out to be the resident "favorite card", or they decided to actually break trend here. Considering the rival's ace is 2500, I'm sortwhat leaning to the latter. Keep in mind Yusaku's ace deadass became Decode Talker after Konami finally convinced TV Tokyo to stop promoting firewall so they could ban it, so it's not like precedent hasn't already been set.

EDIT: Also Atem used Swift Gaia against the one dude in the virtual world.

Edited by Nickpws on Dec 24th 2019 at 3:15:47 AM

Irene Since: Aug, 2012
#34: Dec 24th 2019 at 9:16:54 AM

I meant to say more often on Swift Gaia. Been exhausted lately. My bad.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#35: Dec 24th 2019 at 5:37:20 PM

You know, I kinda wish that they'd gone balls out with basically using every type of duelling and summoning style across the entire series.

I'm talking Pendulums vs Links (which is impossible in the main game due to the latter nerfing the former), I'm talking an Riding Speed Action Duel where you mix in Arc-V's Hard Light holograms.

I'm talking Psycho Duellist vs Shadow duelling versus that same Hard Light tech used by Action duellist...or since we've seen Psycho duelling vs Shadow duelling, cut out that middle man and go for a Magic Versus Science type thing.

I mean, just go balls out crazy. Hell, throw in Deckmaster rules from the Virtual Nightmare Arc and skills from Vrains too while they're at it. Just mix it all together in one crazy ass tournament where you never know what the other guy is gonna do, and anything can happen.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Dec 24th 2019 at 6:39:34 AM

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Nickpws Since: Dec, 2014
#36: Dec 25th 2019 at 1:32:00 AM

That would quickly become too much of a clusterfuck to keep up with, and we already had sengoku dueling (or close enough, anyway) in Arc-V.

PhantomBladewing Since: Dec, 2012
#37: Dec 25th 2019 at 5:52:29 AM

Seventh Road Magician's ATK value is likely what it is because they really wanted to emphasize the whole 7 motif it has and 2100 is divisible by 7 whereas 2500 is not.

Also, keep in mind that Firewall Dragon was not revealed right away, which may also be the case here. While they did show more than was expected, they still have to keep a few things under wraps since the show won't start until April.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#38: Dec 25th 2019 at 1:29:27 PM

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It really would, but seeing all the different duelling styles clash is something I just want so bad.

There's no chance it'd ever work...but if they did find a way it'd be something to see.

Though I suspect Pendulum would lose every battle, just as a Take That! towards that season.

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Nickpws Since: Dec, 2014
#39: Apr 5th 2020 at 2:13:22 AM

I'm going to bump this because I saw people talking about "making" a Sevens thread when this already exists.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#40: Apr 5th 2020 at 7:30:26 AM

I forgot about this thread.

Anyway, first episode...was a first episode. Yuga is a bit of a tech head, but also still kinda seems like an Idiot Hero...that's an interesting combination.

I'm wondering if Rook was serious about having a devil in him. The series has moved very far away from it's supernatural roots since the second half of 5D's so it'd be interesting to bring it back, but I admit that's unlikely.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#41: Apr 5th 2020 at 7:48:31 AM

There is something weird on him being able to short out machines with a touch, but he did seem like a kid trying to look cool.

Man, the hell about to be caused by the new rules is gonna be something to see.

So, any faith on the new show so far?

Edited by Blueace on Apr 5th 2020 at 11:51:50 AM

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Nickpws Since: Dec, 2014
#42: Apr 5th 2020 at 2:08:45 PM

[up] Faith? Not really.

It's not offensively bad like I'd feared, but I hesitate to call it good either. The exposition and setting are both extremely on-the-nose and while we only have 1 duel to judge from so far, the one duel didn't leave me with much confidence. They practically spelled out everything for the audience at every point, and not in the way ZeXal did it. While ZeXal used its narrative as a vessel to teach the cardgame, Sevens uses it to comment on how the progression of the anime card game is meant to go. The whole "Instant rush of satisfaction followed by thrilling comebacks" business. On top of that, it might just be me, but it actually failed to tell what the rules *were*. I didn't hear a mention of unlimited normal summoning, it was only shown, and similarly, no mention of a lack of Main Phase 2 or how Mass Draws work.

The duel being only 3 turns doesn't help that either.

It's just an extremely clumsy first episode that ends up saying a lot while meaning very little. It's probably the single weakest opener we've had to a YGO show yet, and the previous two before it weren't exactly confidence inspiring either.

I'll still reserve any final judgements until we're about 12 or so episodes in, since Sevens can still surprise me despite a poor initial showing, but I just don't like this first episode at all. I seem to dislike it more each time I think about it.

ShiningStardust Since: Jun, 2017
#43: Apr 6th 2020 at 12:47:42 PM

Funny how Romin's bio talk about her being not really into dueling, and no ace card for her is mentioned during Sevens character reveal, implying she doesn't duel at all....but then literally 5 seconds into the opening we see her with a Duel Disk and her ace card on the back.

Edited by ShiningStardust on Apr 6th 2020 at 12:50:12 PM

PhantomBladewing Since: Dec, 2012
#44: Apr 6th 2020 at 1:30:44 PM

[up][up]You may want to rewatch the episode then because both the "Mass Normal Summon" and "Draw until you have 5 cards in hand" were commented upon with Yuga outright giving a short explanation regarding both (well, mostly the latter).

This is still the first episode though. Both Arc-V and VRAINS took several episodes and duels to explain the full details of their respective new mechanics. (The second, third and fourth duels of Arc-V each focused on a different aspect of the Pendulum mecahanic)

[up]Perhaps they wanted us to keep guessing for a while ?

Edited by PhantomBladewing on Apr 6th 2020 at 10:31:12 AM

Nickpws Since: Dec, 2014
#45: Apr 6th 2020 at 1:51:41 PM

[up] I'm definitely wrong on the mass draw part, but not on the mass summons. They comment on both duelists summoning a lot, but not how they summon a lot. The most we get is a "Nope, you can do this in my rush summon!" from Yuga. I get that YGO is pretty tride-and-true by now and that most any recurring viewer will know how it works regardless, but this is the one show where they probably *should* put in an actual explanation since it's targeted at a much younger demographic. Presumably, one that hasn't played YGO before.

Also, mentioning the rules of a Master Duel (whoa you can't normally do that tho?!) while not having shown how an actual Master Duel works is just... not great to me from a narrative point. Even Vrains had a quick tutorial on Speed Duels in its first duel that got you up to speed with the basics in a timely fashion.

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#46: Apr 8th 2020 at 1:59:34 PM

Not quite as bad as I feared it'd be.

And just like I'd theorized, the brighter and more colorful the Yugioh, the weirder and darker it seems primed to go. GOHA CORP IS YOUR FRIEND. TRUST GOHA CORP. LIVE FOR GOHA CORP.

Like, this bright and colorful Buddyfight aesthetic with a heavy Big Brother Is Watching thing going on? That just seems jarring.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
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#47: Apr 8th 2020 at 5:09:35 PM

I hope Crunchyroll picks it up. Haven't seen it yet because all the available translations sound bad from what I hear. The show looks fun as hell and I'd hate to miss out on it.

RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#48: Apr 8th 2020 at 9:21:27 PM

Huh, so from what I hear Rush Duel is essentially all stereotypes about modern Yu-Gi-Oh! game except they are true.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#49: Apr 8th 2020 at 9:24:15 PM

How obvious is it that Rush Duels were invented by a grade schooler?

Edited by Blueace on Apr 8th 2020 at 1:27:36 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#50: Apr 8th 2020 at 9:34:52 PM

[up][up] Ooooh which stereotypes? That sounds fun to list. tongue

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