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This is a thread for checking up on pages for works that have not been released yet, to make sure that they are not straying into rampant speculation or posting crazy behind the scenes spoilers. You can bring both individual examples or entire pages to attention here.

In extreme cases, any page can be locked, but hopefully that won't be necessary.

(As these pages often are hit with zero-context examples and shoehorning as well, all four - speculation, spoilers, ZCEs, and shoehorning may get addressed simultaneously.)

The policy governing this effort is Creating A Work Page For An Unreleased Work. Cleanup is being tracked using the Unreleased Works sandbox.

All pages for unreleased works should include a %% comment at the top of the page, confirming the policy and linking to this thread and the Administrivia page. It doesn't have to be exactly the same as the example provided here, but this provides a template to work with.

     Template for the unreleased work comment 
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%% Speculative troping is not allowed on TV Tropes.
%%
%% We trope what DOES happen in works, not what MIGHT happen or is LIKELY to happen.
%%
%% For unreleased works where all we have to go on is advertising and other supplemental materials, we have some detailed guidelines, which can be found at Administrivia/CreatingAWorkPageForAnUnreleasedWork.
%%
%% NOTE - these rules also mean that unreleased works should only have one page image, and that image should NOT be changed again until the work is released.
%%
%% If you have questions, please consult the Unreleased Work Speculation Cleanup thread at https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15514631230A64268600
%%
%% Thank you.
%%

Edited by Mrph1 on Feb 10th 2024 at 8:16:52 PM

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#3276: Mar 23rd 2024 at 3:54:32 PM

Well, it is a sandbox; keeping it updated isn't strictly mandatory (nor is using it in the first place).

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Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
he/him
#3277: Mar 27th 2024 at 12:42:37 AM

Calling the second Crowner item - 13/0 in favor. Early access via Patreon subscription etc. is not treated as a release.

Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 27th 2024 at 7:54:09 PM

BigBadShadow25 Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan
#3278: Mar 28th 2024 at 3:17:45 PM

Someone made another page for Transformers One despite there being no tropable materials. I went ahead and added it to the cut list.

The Owl House and Coyote Vs Acme are my Roman Empire.
ToonAbby Uzume's back baby! from Racing Dogoo Game Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Uzume's back baby!
#3279: Apr 16th 2024 at 6:15:41 AM

I've been keeping this hidden for a long while, but looking at the sandbox, I've noticed that are a lot of "upcoming" works (namely at the third category) that don't even exist at all. As in, searching them up online leads to either unrelated works or non-works with similar names or almost nothing, and it makes me wonder if these "works" are even real at all. Case in point, Soft Soap and UwU are listed as UWs despite neither work having even so much as an article.

One other thing, Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans Urdr-Hunt (the mobile game, not the upcoming anime) was released two years ago (November 15, 2022) and ceased operations three months ago (January 11, 2024), but is still listed on Release Date Less Work Descriptions. Should we remove the game from there?

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ToonAbby Uzume's back baby! from Racing Dogoo Game Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Uzume's back baby!
#3280: Apr 17th 2024 at 6:54:00 AM

[up] Bumping

"The name's Uzume Tennouboshi! Yeah, it's pretty badass, I know." - Uzume, Megadimension Neptunia VII
bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Friends forevermore
#3281: Apr 17th 2024 at 10:09:41 PM

Yeah, that sandbox needs help.

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
he/him
#3282: May 8th 2024 at 7:14:43 AM

Sounds like Hades II is in early release, although with some levels missing.

We'd normally treat this as "released", but not sure if the missing pieces complicate that?

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#3283: May 8th 2024 at 2:09:13 PM

Have we made a decision on Steam Early Access games before? In general anyone can purchase and play them exactly the same way as a "finished" game so I'd argue to just allow it. If anything changes later, page can be changed to account for that. Not really that different to a fully-released game getting content updates.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
he/him
#3284: May 8th 2024 at 2:26:50 PM

[up] Yep. The guidance on Administrivia (here) is:

  • If the general public can simply pay extra for early access to the work, that generally counts as a release. There may be exceptions when the price is extremely high and/or early access is only available for a limited number of people. These can be discussed on a case-by-case basis.

I don't think we considered early access to a partial work, but I guess that's no different to early access to Episode One of an ongoing series?

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#3285: May 8th 2024 at 2:46:02 PM

We've troped early access games plenty of times. Minecraft comes to mind.

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#3286: May 8th 2024 at 2:51:06 PM

Also see this post, and there was another conversation on the topic somewhere.

Edited by Amonimus on May 8th 2024 at 12:51:42 PM

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