Misused: Conspicuous CG

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Out of place computer generated effects is a trope and this trope name is pretty good for that, dont think its YMMV since blending failures are obvious.

Now refining this trope as Hybrid Animation though will need to be renamed to that. However a vast majority of animation produced today is that, like its rare to actually find a fully cell animated series made in the past 10 years. Most of the time you just do not notice cause they are getting better at blending em and having CG run at the same framerate as the normal animation.

The ones you do notice don't have the budget, don't care or using it as a unique style.

Edited by Memers on Apr 6th 2019 at 9:54:00 AM

Hybrid Animation sounds like a more neutral name than the current, so I think it would be an improvement.

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Steven Universe never used CG as far as I know.

EDIT: By "CG", I meant 3D.

Edited by rjd1922 on Apr 7th 2019 at 1:08:38 PM

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They actually do quite a bit of CG. Effects, inbetween, compositing and coloring are CG according to the other wiki and other sources.

Computer Graphics (CG) and 3D graphics aren't exactly the same thing.

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Flash animation is 2D, but also computer-generated.

We're looking for cases where the 3D animation sticks out like a sore thumb.

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Does it have to? That's subjective. It should be just 2D show/movie sometimes uses 3D.

Edited by Lymantria on Apr 7th 2019 at 4:30:00 AM

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Well, more of that idea. I guess I'm thinking much like the page image, even though it's much easier to see in animation.

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That is a Subjective and Flamebait trope that is really different from Hybrid Animation that is proposed by everyone else. Also I don't know why something like that would be restricted to just animation, its bigger with blending 3D animation and real life footage.

Also for the most part that trope basically boils down to every 3D model ever as to someone somewhere they see it thus its an example.

And if its just 3D modeling then this trope's title is horrid.

Edited by Memers on Apr 7th 2019 at 4:47:50 AM

Current pic is good.

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Not all 3D animation appears in 2D animation. It's much more common to create the whole work in 3D.

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don’t just take 3 words out of context. Every 3D model or scene in an animated work or even live action is out of place to someone, the technology isn’t there yet.

The only place where it really is is in drawn works like Manga where there are various blending techniques and such to make it less obvious and you don’t need to deal with framerates.

Edited by Memers on Apr 8th 2019 at 2:11:17 AM

Now you're citing the trope. Earlier, you weren't. The trope, as currently defined, is not "every 3D model or scene in a live-action work" because it's defined in relation to 2D animation. From what I read of your post, you seriously said "every 3D model, everywhere". The part about seeming "out of place" is a subjective experience that seems to have been rejected by the crowner.

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The trope name makes it subjective as well as does not indicate ‘2D and 3D model blending’. As well as it does not exclude CG effects or an Art Shift to 3D in works.

The trope on the page is currently ‘imperfect CG, of any type or description’, there is even a live action example on the page about chroma key manipulation.

Edited by Memers on Apr 8th 2019 at 3:31:43 AM

Yep, so a crowner was created to determine what aspects were part of the definition, and which parts could be reasonably excised. The crowner is strongly leaning towards excision for things like Chroma Key.

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And others were arguing against that.

But dropping ‘Computer generated’ altogether would probably be the best.

Potentially getting rid of the trope altogether probably should be an option since Medium Blending already exists which is exactly that, even the page image is that trope.

You should add that option to the crowner.

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In short, you're saying that even if renamed+cleaned up, this trope would be Medium Blending with animation, done badly?

Basically that’s what it is now. The other proposal is just make it ‘Medium Blending but only for 2D and 3D art’.

The crowner has only been up since last month, but "Define as 'computer-generated/3D animation in an otherwise 2D-animated work', clean up misuse, and rename to prevent further misuse" is unanimous at 16:0, while the others have more votes against than in favor of (albeit to a small extent in two of the three cases).

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 20th 2019 at 11:24:33 AM

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Yes. This trope should be 2D animated show/movie sometimes uses 3D, not complaining about effects you don't like.

Edited by Lymantria on May 20th 2019 at 12:49:29 PM

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Ideas already mentioned:

• Obvious 3D in 2D Animation
• 3D in 2D
• 3D in Cartoons
• CG in 2D
• 3D Effects, 2D Cartoon
• Noticeable 3D in 2D Animation
• Hybrid Animation

Anything else?

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