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#26: Sep 12th 2019 at 9:48:11 PM

I feel we'll have a better answer to that question in three days or so.

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#27: Nov 17th 2019 at 2:38:42 AM

Sun and Moon has ended, the new series is out (and in continuity with the rest of the series so no reboot) and it doesn't have a known subtile unlike AG, DP, BW, XY, etc. And this project has been dormant for far too long. I think the foundation is mostly finished but no clearance yet. What is needed to be done?

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#28: Nov 17th 2019 at 5:20:26 PM

We should wait to see how the new series gets localized before doing anything.

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#29: Jan 4th 2020 at 11:03:27 AM

The new series' English title should be announced soon.

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#30: Apr 21st 2020 at 4:17:13 PM

The newest season's English name has been leaked. It's not 100% confirmed, but it likely will be soon.

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#31: Apr 23rd 2020 at 8:58:34 AM

We now have our title. Pokémon Journeys.

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#33: Apr 23rd 2020 at 5:53:19 PM

The only reason it "died" is that we were waiting on the title. So yeah, let's bring out our Max Revive.

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#34: Apr 24th 2020 at 12:12:22 AM

I think it died because we didn't know what's left to do as well? Sandbox.Pokemon Anime Singular Series reached a point where it expanded a lot, then I didn't know what to add to it further. Also, I wasn't sure if the main article would have to be renamed to Anime.Pokemon The Series (this would also require a lot of moves and stuff). Also, that anime is subtitled Anime.Pokemon Journeys The Series, so IDK, maybe we should make a crowner for making sure we have to use "The Series".

Edited by Piterpicher on Apr 24th 2020 at 9:12:36 PM

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#35: Apr 24th 2020 at 11:53:08 AM

[up] "The Series" (except maybe for Anime.Pokemon The Series as a whole?) is equivalent to "Versions" in the first five game generations; it can safely be dropped for Journeys, but not for the DP though SM animes, because those would conflict with the games.

If we treat the gen 3 anime as Ruby & Sapphire (its retroactive title) rather than Advanced (its title as aired), it would conflict as well.

Edited by bwburke94 on Apr 24th 2020 at 2:56:02 PM

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#36: Apr 25th 2020 at 3:07:40 PM

[up] There is a distinct difference between XY (the anime) and X & Y (the games).

But other than the Advanced series, I'm not sure if the title conflicts are that serious.

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#37: Apr 25th 2020 at 9:23:18 PM

I think we might be getting ahead of ourselves again.

Obviously, the page will need to be split, but are we treating this as one work with the examples list split by series, or as multiple series outright? (Most subpages could remain unsplit in the former case.)

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#38: Apr 27th 2020 at 2:20:51 AM

[up] It's like a long running comic book, often rebranded time and time again. The best way to handle the split is to look at Dragon Ball.

Theoretically, the original Dragon Ball manga went from kid Goku's first adventure with Bulma to Goku taking Uub (Kid Buu's reincarnation) for training.

But because the anime split the manga into two series, Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, it has become more common for fans to treat post-Piccolo saga as its own thing, with no need to watch what happened before. Sure, they're connected overall but it's easier to refer to a specific series than say "Episode 1085" of Pokémon.

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#40: May 17th 2020 at 9:12:02 PM

So if we're going the Dragon Ball route, it's one series, which contains multiple series within itself?

Edited by bwburke94 on Jul 12th 2020 at 10:40:02 AM

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#41: May 19th 2020 at 6:20:15 PM

[up] Yes by all accounts considering that Pokémon Journeys made several Continuity Nods to previous series and Sun and Moon brought back Misty and Brock.

The anime is virtually one big story that is divided into separate "standalone" storylines.

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#42: Jul 12th 2020 at 1:01:03 AM

[up][up][up] Btw, Pokémon Generations has been moved by your request.

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#43: Jul 12th 2020 at 7:41:28 AM

This has been on the backburner for a while. We should, at the very least, decide on the location of each page.

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#44: Nov 13th 2020 at 3:49:03 AM

I honestly should have revived this project a long time ago since this thread started over a year ago. After tonight's episode revitialized my interest in the anime again, I realized that Pokémon Journeys is going to be one year old... and we are sorely behind schedule of updating the sandbox.

I've already created the folder for Journeys and added a few tropes. But now I really need the answer for this question: When will this sandbox be ready for launch and how to launch it?

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#45: Nov 26th 2020 at 8:06:21 PM

(Late) We just have to make sure that all the tropes on Pokémon are in there respective sections. There are probaby new examples that have been missed. As for launching it, all we have to do is make pages for each section like create Anime.Pokemon The Orignal Series and then split off the others into their own page in the Anime/ namespace.

Edited by MacronNotes on Nov 27th 2020 at 11:21:10 AM

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#46: Nov 27th 2020 at 10:51:57 AM

[up] Typo; should be Anime.Pokemon The Original Series.

(As I've mentioned offhand before, the distinction between the Kanto/Orange/Johto arcs is purely a dub invention, which is why those three arcs would share a page.)

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#47: Jan 17th 2021 at 12:45:51 PM

What if we use PokemonTheSeries/ as the namespace? Just an idea.

(Example: PokemonTheSeries.Ruby And Sapphire)

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Shadao Since: Jan, 2013
#48: Jan 17th 2021 at 6:20:30 PM

[up] It could help distinguish the anime from the rest of the franchise. The only issue would be the original series since it would cover the Kanto, Johto and Orange Island segments while the dub split them into their own series just to make categorization easier. What should we do with the original series namespace then? Once we establish that, the rest should be easy.

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#49: Jan 17th 2021 at 6:52:31 PM

[up] It'll look awkward compared to other series (we don't have PrettyCure.Heartcatch or JoJosBizarreAdventure.Vento Aureo, for example). Maybe just leave it in the Anime/ namespace.

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#50: Jan 18th 2021 at 12:48:38 PM

Works are not namespaces.


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