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Deadlock Clock: Jun 28th 2018 at 11:59:00 PM
PeabodySam The Pea Mocker from Behind the computer Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
The Pea Mocker
#1: Apr 27th 2018 at 2:54:04 PM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mother_brain.jpg
Mother Brain suggestion
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/torizo_1.png
Torizo suggestion 1
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/torizo_3.png
Torizo suggestion 2
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/torizo_2.png
Torizo suggestion 3
This topic will be covering multiple pages (Metroid - Mother Brain and Metroid - The Chozo) for Metroid characters.

For Metroid - Mother Brain, the current image of her final form from Super Metroid (seen by clicking the text below her Zero Mission image) is at a rather awkward angle (making her look a little goofy, though YMMV) and doesn't show off her entire form. This suggestion aims to fix both of those problems.

For Metroid - The Chozo, the current image of Torizo Statues has a rather poor pose, where a significant portion of the statue's face and torso is hidden by its left arm and hand. Additionally, the artwork is colored red, which doesn't really represent how Torizo appears in-game. I have two full-body suggestions, but if they don't look good at wiki sizenote , I also have a third suggestion of the Torizo from the torso up.

Additionally, Metroid - Ridley could potentially be improved by having Zero Mission Ridley (top) as the main image and hiding Meta Ridley (bottom) in clickable text, just like what we're currently doing with Mother Brain.

Any thoughts?

... until SUDDENLY DINOSAURS.
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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#3: Apr 27th 2018 at 6:44:44 PM

The Mother Brain suggestion is just as goofy, if not more so. Lateral change imo.

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PeabodySam The Pea Mocker from Behind the computer Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
The Pea Mocker
#4: Apr 27th 2018 at 7:47:16 PM

[up] If the "goofiness factor" is a lateral move, then at least showing off the entire form (instead of awkwardly cutting off her lower legs) should make it a minor improvement.

It's admittedly hard to find a decent official image of Super Metroid Mother Brain that doesn't have some inherent goofy camp factor to it... I suppose it's the design that looks like it's right out of an old cheesy sci-fi B-movie. Still, I think current's "Huh, what's that over there?" expression doesn't do the character as much justice as 1.1's "I'm looking right at you and I'm going to eat your face!" expression.

... until SUDDENLY DINOSAURS.
AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#5: May 1st 2018 at 7:58:23 AM

I think Mother Brain's full form is goofy any way you put it.

I like the Torizo suggestion #2.

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Lizardon Since: Jan, 2015
#6: May 1st 2018 at 6:59:25 PM

Since I had suggested using the ZM illustration of Ridley for the Beware My Stinger Tail trope, could we potentially use the Super Metroid illustration for representing classic Ridley on his page in case if that pic goes through?

edited 1st May '18 7:00:31 PM by Lizardon

PeabodySam The Pea Mocker from Behind the computer Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
The Pea Mocker
#7: May 8th 2018 at 10:52:25 AM

[up] Given the way that crowner is currently headed, I don't think that will be an issue.

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PeabodySam The Pea Mocker from Behind the computer Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
The Pea Mocker
#8: May 15th 2018 at 12:39:33 PM

Bumping to see if anyone has any more thoughts.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#9: May 15th 2018 at 1:22:45 PM

Mother Brain suggestion is also more blurry than the current. It's a straight downgrade.

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#10: May 24th 2018 at 3:03:27 PM

Why not a screenshot of the game version?

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PeabodySam The Pea Mocker from Behind the computer Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
The Pea Mocker
#11: Jun 1st 2018 at 2:33:32 PM

[up][up] Doesn't really look blurry to me. Just looks like it has an art style with much thinner lines, compared to current's more comic book-like thick lines. And I still argue that, by showing the whole body (instead of just awkwardly cutting off the lower legs), it can't be a straight downgrade.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mother_brain_in_game.png
[up] Like so? This was the best quality I could find.

The one problem is that most other characters use artwork (where available) instead of in-game screenshots. Since we do have at least two pieces of official artwork for Mother Brain's final form, it would be more consistent if we used one of those instead of her in-game sprite.

Still, I wonder if a crowner could be hooked. Like the one for The Last Jedi subpages, it would be a double-crowner covering both Mother Brain and Torizo. At the very least, there is support for using one of the Torizo suggestions, even if Mother Brain is contested... but since there are multiple suggestions for each (plus the current images), a crowner would be the best way to resolve this matter.

... until SUDDENLY DINOSAURS.
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PeabodySam The Pea Mocker from Behind the computer Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
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#13: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:55:58 PM

Well, I went ahead and attempted to start a crowner for this thread... unfortunately, it just so happens to be in the middle of this website update that apparently broke the code for linking to a URL in a crowner.

So, while this thread currently has a clock set, I'd appreciate it if it wasn't closed until after the crowner was fixed and people got the chance to vote.

... until SUDDENLY DINOSAURS.
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#14: Jun 26th 2018 at 3:48:19 PM

Yeah, this update is really going to hamper things in here while the admins are squashing bugs.

Shadao To be a Master Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
To be a Master
#15: Sep 20th 2018 at 12:10:24 PM

Well, I think this is long overdue. Is the crowner system fixed?

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#16: Sep 20th 2018 at 12:20:36 PM

[up] No, not yet...I'm hoping to hear some news on that early next week, the admins are supposed to be working on a batch of priority fixes and I believe crowners are part of that.

If we can get some kind of consensus on this without needing to go to a crowner, that's fine.

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#17: Sep 20th 2018 at 12:25:39 PM

I like 11.

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PeabodySam The Pea Mocker from Behind the computer Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
The Pea Mocker
#18: Sep 20th 2018 at 2:04:06 PM

Very well, then. Let's see if we can do this the old-fashioned way.

My own votes:

  • Mother Brain: 1.1 > Current > 11
  • Torizo: 1.3 > 1.4 > 1.2 > Current

And the current tally, not counting "lateral" comments (since they don't express a strong opinion for either 1.1 or Current):

  • Mother Brain: 11 (2) > 1.1 (1) = Current (1)
  • Torizo: 1.3 (2) > 1.2 (0) = 1.4 (0) = Current (0)

... until SUDDENLY DINOSAURS.
rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#19: Sep 20th 2018 at 2:42:15 PM

Is there any chance you can make them transparent so they look better with Night Vision?

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Shadao To be a Master Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
To be a Master
#21: Sep 20th 2018 at 10:38:52 PM

[tup] to the first Torizo (transparent background that is). If you are worried about size, you can shrink it (I've done that with several images before).

As for Mother Brain, it has been very difficult to find a picture that I like (and is transparent). Any Mother Brain image is fine as long as it's transparent and clear to see.

On a related note: Should Mother Brain's tropes be divided into two folders now?

Edited by Shadao on Sep 20th 2018 at 10:52:16 AM

PeabodySam The Pea Mocker from Behind the computer Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
The Pea Mocker
#22: Sep 21st 2018 at 6:55:28 AM

Now that I see them with transparent backgrounds, I'll change my Torizo vote from 1.3 to 20.2. The dynamic pose looks much cooler without the ugly background now!

Re-tallied votes (switching to transparent pics where applicable):

  • Mother Brain: 11 (2) > 20.1 (1) = Current (1)
  • Torizo: 20.2 (2) > 20.3 (1) > 20.4 (0) = Current (0)

... until SUDDENLY DINOSAURS.
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#23: Oct 3rd 2018 at 3:07:01 AM

Ill say yes to mother brain in 11 and Torizo from 20.2

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rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#25: Oct 3rd 2018 at 11:41:52 AM

20.1 for Mother Brain and 20.2 for the Torizo. I think that's enough consensus for the Torizo pic.

Edited by rjd1922 on Oct 3rd 2018 at 7:30:27 AM

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