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#1: Apr 25th 2018 at 3:21:37 AM

It was changed without making a thread first. Personally Im cool with either but want to see peoples opinions.

edited 25th Apr '18 3:21:48 AM by miraculous

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#2: Apr 25th 2018 at 4:01:35 AM

This, if I'm not mistaken, was the old pic. The new one is, I think, marginally better, but something that's a bit more clearly evil would be even better.

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#3: Apr 25th 2018 at 5:04:30 AM

Alright how about Satha the white snake from Conan The Barbarian : The Scarlet Citadel

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ahr0cdovl3d3dy5uzxdzyxjhbweuy29tl2ltywdlcy9plzawmc8wmzqvodgzl29yawdpbmfsl2tpbmdfy29uyw5fdghlx3njyxjszxrfy2l0ywrlbf8yxzquanbn.jpg

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/conanksc2p6.jpg

edited 25th Apr '18 5:05:17 AM by miraculous

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#4: Apr 25th 2018 at 5:08:49 AM

I can't even tell what's going on in the new one. Looks like Light 'em Up to me. Not sure the evil bit.

The Major from Hellsing (who is a Nazi)

edited 25th Apr '18 5:13:24 AM by Ghilz

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#5: Apr 25th 2018 at 8:06:01 AM

The old one was replaced precisely because the "looks more evil" was a subject of complaints in discussion. It kind of defeats the purpose.

Personally, I think switching this and the pic for Light 'em Up would suffice if you don't think Elesh Norn committing genocide is clear enough. That one shows the devastating effect of light and was in fact the original one for the page.

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#6: Apr 25th 2018 at 9:01:25 AM

I think the old one (2) works better than the other images. It shows imagery associated with "light", and he looks evil enough.

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#7: Apr 25th 2018 at 9:20:17 AM

Thing is, as stated in the discussion looking evil defeats the purpose of the trope. Actually showing a light-aligned character doing evil things gets the point across.

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#8: Apr 25th 2018 at 9:34:14 AM

I prefer the old pic. I could infer that his villainous-looking face was supposed to be evil compared to the other light/angel imagery. The current doesn't look particularly villainous to me; the person looks like they're using light powers to kill monsters.

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#9: Apr 25th 2018 at 10:13:29 AM

Yes, the person blasting people with agonised looks on their faces doesn't come across as evil.

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#10: Apr 25th 2018 at 10:19:52 AM

[up]No, really, they don't. For all we know the people could be villainous mooks. As a previous poster mentioned, the current looks more like Light 'em Up.

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#11: Apr 25th 2018 at 5:48:21 PM

Contextually, its genocide.

Like I said, I'm open to a switcheroo, since the Light 'em Up pic was the original one for this page and it definitely shows the light in a negative way.

I just think this one is appropriate for this page.

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#12: Apr 25th 2018 at 5:54:59 PM

Definitely not the Kefka piece at any rate, as detailed in the complaints in the discussion

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#13: Apr 25th 2018 at 11:20:00 PM

I don't think "looking evil" is against the trope, and at least some part of the image has to clearly illustrate evil. None of the other suggestions do that.

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#14: Apr 26th 2018 at 4:10:42 AM

It does, considering how it undermines the idea that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

Additionally, it does so in "dark" ways like glowing red eyes and shadows.

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#15: Apr 26th 2018 at 5:15:43 AM

The darkness there is because of the back-light. There's also the angel, cloud, and sun motifs, all associated with light.

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#16: Apr 26th 2018 at 7:58:01 AM

Alright If were going with Kefka could we at at least use an official image. Like one from his reappearnce in Final Fantasy XIV

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mqdefault_5.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/images_908.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/12576_8.jpg

edited 26th Apr '18 7:58:20 AM by miraculous

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#17: Apr 26th 2018 at 8:02:33 AM

If we go by the trope description...

The mildest form of this Trope involves beautiful, charismatic villains dressed in white and surrounded by religious symbols. A step further features a villain who wields Light as an elemental power
The former pic is clearly the former, the current seems to be the latter, but I don't see "Evil" in it at all. It's more of a Light 'em Up applied to actually evil-looking Mooks.

I vote revert to the original.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#18: Apr 26th 2018 at 9:55:41 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/final_fantasy_xiv_god_kefka3.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/final_fantasy_xiv_god_kefka2_3.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/final_fantasy_xiv_god_kefka1.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/final_fantasy_xiv_god_kefka_2.jpg
Alternative shots for 16

edited 28th Apr '18 12:42:21 PM by eroock

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#19: Apr 27th 2018 at 8:14:48 PM

[up] I like the last one best of everything so far.

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#20: Apr 28th 2018 at 6:36:13 AM

Bump for more votes. Personally Im fine with any in 18.

edited 28th Apr '18 6:47:54 AM by miraculous

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#21: Apr 28th 2018 at 6:46:48 AM

18.2

I don't like the composition in the first, the third is too dark and the last one is blindingly bright.

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#22: Apr 28th 2018 at 12:44:39 PM

Brought down the brightness in last image.

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#23: Apr 28th 2018 at 2:01:57 PM

I'll go with the last in 18.

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#25: Apr 29th 2018 at 3:07:31 AM

Honestly lets go with a crowner. Weve got plenty of nice options so that would help people decide on which they want.

If we go with Kefka though Iv got a great quote from the FF XIV campaign to use as a a caption:

“Are you afraid of the dark? Hah! ‘Tis light’s glare that will strip you bare!”

edited 29th Apr '18 3:08:52 AM by miraculous

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ImagePickin: LightIsNotGood
1st May '18 8:03:13 PM

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