The page definitely tries to cover too many scenarios at once. Examples belonging to related tropes (see above) should be moved there. I imagine Window Pain to be about intimidating messages sent to a person via stone/brick through the window, bonus point a note attached. Trope name may have to change.
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That seems good. Of all the things that are currently on the page, threats are the only one that could be made into a trope.
Perhaps Threatening Broken Window or Broken-Window Warning as names?
Broken Window Warning absolutely. That can be applied to Home Alone 2 right away.
Broken-Window Warning is okay but it makes me think of a warning about a broken window.
How about Window Breaking Threat?
edited 21st Dec '17 2:27:53 AM by Daefaroth
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If it's being changed to reflect threats tossed through broken windows Window Breaking Threat works best of the proposed names. Should that maybe be split off as its own trope and Window Pain remain as a supertrope for types of broken windows though? There seem to be quite a few tropes that would fit under it.
I don't see the need for a supertrope. Perhaps an index page.
So what's needed to move this forward? Are we good to make this page about intimidations via stone-into-window and weed out the examples? Crowner for the trope name?
edited 29th Mar '18 8:27:37 AM by eroock
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I made a crowner for voting on the new name
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(I also accidentally made one as a Page Action crowner, which should be deleted if that's possible)
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It's been a while, and Broken-Window Warning seems to be winning. Should we proceed to rewriting the page description?
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I made a sandbox page for the new definition. Any comments?
edited 14th Apr '18 4:16:20 PM by Zuxtron
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Crowner's steady, so calling it. If the sandbox looks alright, then I could move the contents to Main tomorrow at the earliest, then we can perform the procedures needed for renames.
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^^ Looks good. Just add a compare section with the other related tropes you mentioned in OP.
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Okay, will copy sandbox contents to Main/. Then, we can do the wicks and acknowledge the move in the proper places.
Edit: Done, will help with other parts once I can. Here's the wick list; I already took care of an index. Also took care of posting the rename in the proper forum thread.
edited 15th Apr '18 3:27:36 PM by Berrenta
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Should I turn Window Pain into a redirect to Broken-Window Warning? It would spare us from having to change the trope name when it is used in the new definition.
edited 15th Apr '18 5:03:00 PM by Zuxtron
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Yes.
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I think I've cut all of the misused wicks. Up has one which seems to be unfitting (it's a ZCE), but the page is locked (I've requested it to be edited in the proper thread).
While doing some more cross-wicking, I noticed a number of scenarios where things are thrown into windows (open or not) as a sort of Brick Mail. I don't think this is covered under Enter Stage Window. These messages come from strangers who had no intention to get into personal contact with the person behind the window. Saw at least 5 examples. Should we try to TLP this as a sister trope? Broadening Broken-Window Warning to include this scenario is not intuitive after the recent name change that narrowed it down to threats.
edited 24th Apr '18 10:05:27 AM by eroock
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I think it's worth a shot at TLP.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
I would think there would be a lot of overlap though- a lot of times the message on the note is threatening, so it's not too different in meaning from no note at all..
"It's just a show; I should really just relax"
Should be closed for inaction.
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In its current form, Window Pain seems to be "A window gets broken in this work", which I believe is much too broad and common to be anything more than People Sit On Chairs. The description lists pretty much every possible reason why someone would want to break a window.
Some of the given reasons for breaking a window already have their own page:
I also feel that breaking a window as a threat (either just by breaking it, or by throwing a rock with a warning note attached to it) could be made into its own page.