Fate/Apocrypha

Such is the life of a designated jobber

Shirou and Shirou would ultimately fight against each other because they stand opposed to each other ideologically just as Jeanne

The RAW of 22 should be out and... I might as well brace for the impact of Karna power fans screaming in agony....

edited 9th Dec '17 6:34:21 PM by ChrisX

Not this Karna fan.

I already know the story and anyway, it was inevitable, he was the Gilgamesh of this movie tale.

It's a given the Black team had to cheat and it was Higashides way of homage to the Fate finale

Just before I saw this episode I got a ad about game called million Arthur arcana blood. I’m just saying this because design of characters look very fate like

So I don’t know japanese but i think by what I saw it took 3 people to beat karna will that make karna fans happy

I think it means its more tolerable. Karna was as mentioned above destine to lose despite his superiority cause hes the Gil of Apocrypha. The fatw of all antagonists that are OP.

So there seems a debate about if the karna fight had good or bad animation

I think it might be a bit too early, but the previous ep's Chiron vs Achilles thing... I think it's RIPE for parodies with "Guile Theme Goes With Everything"...

there are so many meme you can use for when achillies punch Chiron through the stomach.

Apparently industry people are gaga over the Karna vs Sieg fight

So consensus seems like it's going down as legendary, young bloods proving themselves to the old hands

I'm not sure if that's going to save Sieg from the broken base stuffs.

And also... I can finally say it.

LANSAA GA SHINDA.

What does that mean? The people who made it & a bunch a of executives really love it?

What does the young proving themselves have to do with it?

How was the fight? Cause I stopped watching this show out of boredom a couple weeks ago. Things just lacked tension or something that made viewings a complete chore.

edited 10th Dec '17 1:05:01 AM by slimcoder

I’d guess a bunch of relatively new animators produced something that established industry veterans are drooling over.

Actually I was pretty dead serious when discussing about Guile's theme on Chiron vs Achilles. Yeah. Made it myself.

edited 10th Dec '17 3:47:42 AM by ChrisX

With game FX, niceu!

So which part is your favorite?

Chiron's beatdown of Achilles before the latter finishes him off near the end it seems.

Oh yeah. That one when I spam the "Hue!" in every of Chiron's blows. I was taking inspiration from E. Honda's Hundred Hand Slap move. (I just used vanilla SF's sound effects because it feels more... 'memetic' than SSF 2's version, despite the usual SSF Guile theme)

edited 10th Dec '17 6:02:16 AM by ChrisX

Praise the sun!

On another topic of this episode, this may be just me but I think that this may be how Atalanta, ever since Episode 18, was going through the Five Stages of Grief:

• Denial: After being mind-raped by Jack, she starts to see things on how the world is still far from her dream, it was mostly unattainable to make a world where all children were loved. Still, she attempts to deny that it can still be reached, starting from asking Achilles about it or attempting to dissuade Jeanne that there has to be another way to save the children instead of exorcising them.
• Anger: Of course, Jeanne didn't listen. This flipped off Atalanta so hard she shifted her dedication into 'kill Jeanne'.
• Bargaining: Only temporary, but when she retreated from Jeanne after Jack's exorcism, she attempts to think that if Red faction wins, her wish would come true.
• Depression: Since she got the order to hold off the Hanging Garden while Amakusa gets to use the grail, combined with the blunt rejection of Achilles, and an approaching Jeanne, Atalanta started to lose hope about heroism and discarded it by using Agreus Metamorphosis to do the one thing she know of: Kill Jeanne. This still temporarily continued after Achilles fatally wounded her, with her restored to her senses, she admitted that she was confused herself that deep down she knew the dream might be unattainable, but she still couldn't let go. Also a way for her to cry out her griefs.
• Acceptance: She manages to find peace in her death thanks to Achilles' and passed in peace. This would continue in her FGO interludes, where she manages to confront Jack again and then defeats her without flipping off, so while she's still a dedicated child-protector, she started developing limits and not exactly proud of her past charade.

And she's the kind of character who usually gets chided as a denial moron who needs to wake up and face the 'shiny truth' slapped right into the face. But I feel kind of drawn or intrigued with characters like this (yes, Nyanta isn't the first)...

I wonder if there can be a trope about how 'When your personal dreams are on the line, to hell with reason or morality'...

I guess I can kind of see why from an artistic perspective, but personally that just looked like an overload of bright flashing lights with little rhyme or reason to me. I could barely tell what the hell was supposed to be happening there.

That said, I'm glad they showed just how powerful Karna is. He didn't really get any "wow!" moments in Fate/Extra CCC, where he was hampered by a really weak Master anyway.

edited 10th Dec '17 7:00:13 PM by DarkHunter

I think the closest we got to that trope is The Unfettered.

From what I can tell, the animators went with a style that is strong in fluidity, which can be offputing to some.

I didn't really have a problem following the scene as is sometimes the case with too bombastic action but hot damn, did Karna get justice

Having watched the entirety of the episode, I approve.

Beyond action, they nailed every character featured spot on. This is truly the most important one and I'm so happy it came through. Mad props to every VA in this ep, they made it.

I can see why Nasu praised it on his blog.

Okay, bloody hell, the last two episodes were incredible. Pretty much every fight scene was god-tier. Karna Vs. Sieg makes DBZ look freaking tame in terms of how high-octane it is. The fluidity in the last episode in particular was impressive.

Also, Karna is a total bro.