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Deadlock Clock: Jul 19th 2017 at 11:59:00 PM
eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#1: Apr 28th 2017 at 2:11:01 PM

This page describes a type of ballad but is otherwise trope-free. Either move to Useful Notes or cut altogether?

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#2: Apr 28th 2017 at 3:46:02 PM

Looking at it, yeah, looks more of a Useful Note than a trope. Could use a bit of formatting touchups, though.

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#3: Apr 28th 2017 at 4:01:46 PM

Hmm I expected this to be about medieval style ballads sung in works by Bards like those in Skyrim, Record Of Lodoss War, Final Fantasy IV , or Dragon Age Inquisition. Usually done with a Lute and such.

Which is separate from things like a Rock Ballad, Irish Ballad or Murder Ballad.

edited 28th Apr '17 4:08:32 PM by Memers

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#4: Apr 28th 2017 at 11:46:00 PM

It's a genre, and the page lists tropes common in the genre.

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#5: Apr 28th 2017 at 11:54:16 PM

Yes, it looks like genre to me as well. Most of the examples we do have are all collected on the Child Ballads page, which is linked.

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#6: Apr 29th 2017 at 6:28:39 AM

It is a genre page.

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#7: Apr 29th 2017 at 11:45:18 AM

This is a genre page.

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#8: Apr 29th 2017 at 11:53:06 AM

It does not read like a genre page nor does it have any kind of example list for works featuring them or real songs.

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#9: Apr 30th 2017 at 3:01:06 PM

The first line on this page is "Medieval Ballads are a specific branch of the Folk Song genre," which means that this is a subgenre thereof.

That said, I think the description could be cleaned up. Other than the first sentence, the first paragraph is noting an example rather than talking about the genre.

The headings could be more standardized and the information could be trimmed of word cruft. The trope list could be expanded maybe, or at least given more (or alternatively less) context, and we could try to search for some works that we already have pages for. The page makes it a point that Arthurian legend utilized this genre, so we actually might have some.

I'm not sure if any of this is really a job for TRS, though, rather than a short-term project. wdyt

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#11: Jul 20th 2017 at 8:30:08 AM

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