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ArcaneAzmadi from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
#1: Apr 5th 2017 at 12:50:36 AM

Who the hell decided this, and why? When the company is a CREATOR, we sure as hell need YMMV pages for them, because they can be divisive and have YMMV tropes (Memetic Mutation, Fan Nickname, Broken Base etc) associated with them.

I ask this in response to the deletion of the YMMV page for Konami by My Timing Is Off, citing the thread title as the reason, which strikes me as bizarre at best and suspicious at worst (given Konami's tendency for attempting to censor internet criticism). "We don't need it" is NOT a good enough reason to delete a page with a considerable amount of content on it (if we don't need it, why were all those tropes there?), and if it's just a procedural thing (which is always the WORST reason to do anything) it also creates a double standard that companies like Nintendo and Sega still have extensive YMMV pages (even Gearbox Software still has one).

What's going on here?

edited 5th Apr '17 1:07:12 AM by ArcaneAzmadi

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#2: Apr 5th 2017 at 4:51:18 AM

To my knowledge, YMMV pages for creators should only be used for YMMV tropes about their works, not about the creators themselves. It doesn't matter if the creator is a person or a company; the same policy still applies.

Using other pages as an example of why something should be allowed elsewhere is generally a bad argument, and at most points to a problem elsewhere, rather than any kind of justification. "It's wrong there, so it should be allowed to be wrong here too," is not a legitimate argument.

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#3: Apr 5th 2017 at 4:58:34 AM

[up] To further clarify, we're more interested in opinions about the works, but we still want to avoid Flame Bait.

The companies do something bad? Okay? That's not for the wiki to cover. That just invites complaining. It may be relevant to why a work was cut short/development stopped, and would relevant to lightly mention the situation at best with little detail, but only because it related to the work in question.

ROCEJ is heavily as play here too. Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment is really important for this wiki.

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#4: Apr 5th 2017 at 5:31:42 AM

What's going on is that we expressly do not want opinions about real people or things being documented on our wiki. This has been a rule since forever. YMMV tropes are exclusively for use with respect to creative works.

As we've said again and again, this is not censorship. It's about us choosing the content we allow on our site. We are not here to start fights, nor to carry on fights that started elsewhere. There've got to be a ton of places you can go to bitch about how much you hate Konami.

edited 5th Apr '17 6:30:20 AM by Fighteer

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