Our Dwarves Are All The Same: Too Subjective?

Exactly my original point. My issue is not that I don't like the trope, and it's not that I disagree with the trope. My issue is that the trope doesn't agree with itself, because it makes the statement "Our Dwarves Are All the Same", and most of the page is about dwarves that aren't. In other words, the page has become a general page for dwarves and barely even has anything to with this "All the Same" thing, except that most entries are checked against it arbitrarily. It would be like if every single black person in fiction got an entry for Black and Nerdy, just because they're black, describing how nerdy they are or are not. Mr. T isn't an "aversion" of Black and Nerdy any more than, say, the dwarves in Artemis Fowl are "aversions" of ODAATS. The distinction is that Artemis Fowl's dwarves were not intentionally trying to not be Tolkein's dwarves. They were just being their own thing, so it's not an aversion.

Now on the other hand, whether or not "Dwarf" counts as a trope at all is debatable. I would say it does if Hobbits get their own page, but that's just my opinion. But my problem is this: "The same" that ODAATS refers to really just boils down to "Gimli-ripoff". If you look at it that way, maybe we should change the trope to "Gimli Clone" the same way we have Darth Vader Clone. Alternatively, we could move most of those examples to Overused Copycat Character. The other two thirds of the page, devoted entirely to dwarves that are not like Gimli, would belong on a theoretical trope page just about dwarves in fiction in general (if such a page were to exist...or should exist.)

The race of Dwarves and their stereotypes is a trope, potentially a race subtrope of Fountain of Expies, just do not support the 'The Same' because they are different.

EDIT: although its not trivia like Fountain of Expies, the other subtropes are not trivia as well odd.

edited 1st Mar '17 8:58:14 PM by Memers

Noting here that all Azerothian races came from stone beings, thanks to the world's rather unique lore. So that aspect is not borrowed from Tolkien, or at least not with respect to Dwarves alone.

Gonna close this topic as it's going in circles. Either the OP needs to start a TRS with detailed evidence of misuse, or can it.

edited 2nd Mar '17 5:27:29 AM by Fighteer