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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#26: Feb 1st 2017 at 7:32:39 AM

I am starting to think they just need the axe. If it has been cleaned up once already before and here we are again seeing what a mess they are yet again. I think we learned our lesson from TT. That is minimal value added vs the amount of work it would take to fix this pretty much makes a cut look the better option.

We have a nightmare fuel page for Abbot and Costello...really you have to be kidding me. A walk through several other pages isn't helping things. Full of ZCE's and non-examples and entries that make you really wonder about the person who wrote them. There are a few decent entries but there is so much junk it is looking it really isn't worth it.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#27: Feb 1st 2017 at 7:40:45 AM

To be fair, it's long been shown that one time clean ups don't work if there's no continued maintenance effort. Things get edited all the time. It's a wiki

"We cleaned it before and here we are again" well... where else would be.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#28: Feb 1st 2017 at 9:50:40 AM

They're the kind of maintenance-heavy type pages that need periodic monitoring. It wouldn't be a bad idea to start a concentrated cleanup effort once a year for these kinds of pages. The previous effort drew in the people who edited them the most.

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#29: Feb 1st 2017 at 11:22:10 AM

I have an suggestion: Why not change the subpage's guidelines to help curb the mock-worthy and invalid examples, add an editing tip that only shows while you're editing that page, clean it, and ban anyone who "ruins" the page? As for the guidelinehs; I'm thinking of excluding unused data files, no speculations, appearances and music are valid, and certain works should not have an Nightmare Fuel page.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#30: Feb 1st 2017 at 11:24:34 AM

I worry that something which requires constant cleanup like this, and which contributes so little to the wiki's mission, is just a distraction from all the more important cleanups. But if the people who make these pages can be roped into cleaning them up, then I suppose that's all right.

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#31: Feb 1st 2017 at 10:30:19 PM

Ghilz: The difference is how much time and effort you have to constantly feed into something that doesn't really add anything of note or value to the wiki. There is also a vast world of difference between periodic maintenance and a large swath of material being the problem which has already been addressed in the past with a large effort. Coming full circle repeatedly for so much effort is frankly not worth it. Being back here again with the signs pointing to this being the likely future of the section yet again is not exactly promising.

Requiring yearly clean up is simply not worth it for so little return. TT clean up drew tropers who mostly edited them to and it went right back to the same problems and was ultimately cut. The wiki has benefited far more for their removal then ever having them. There is little indication this would be different with Nightmare Fuel. Especially given how extensive the problem is among the Nightmare Fuel pages.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#32: Feb 2nd 2017 at 12:03:29 AM

I feel like the Nightmare Fuel pages are a different and much less serious kind of embarrassment for the site than Troper Tales, though. The latter was outright masturbatory, whereas Nightmare Fuel is just "that's not really scary", which is ultimately kind of subjective (even though I'd certainly draw that line way short of many current examples).

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#33: Feb 2nd 2017 at 1:27:14 AM

Seems like this discussion has run its course. If people think that Nightmare Fuel merits yet another repair discussion, they can bring it up in Trope Repair Shop. Anyhoo, for people who agree with the thread title, putting Nightmare Fuel on your wiki watchlist would be the right way to go.

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