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#151: Feb 28th 2017 at 6:25:54 AM

I recall such satirical Carnivals, yeah.

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#152: Feb 28th 2017 at 6:35:27 AM

Par de course, yes.

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#153: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:11:16 AM

It's pretty much the point, though they usually tend to aim more towards German politic. The idea is to express all the pent-up anger you feel towards your "rulers" so to speak. It's nowadays not as relevant as it used to be because, well, German TV is full of comedy shows, but it is still part of the tradition. Take it as a loud "we see what you are doing" towards the one in power from the unwashed masses.

Under the article someone commented that they made it into the Dutch media...Wilders is apparently not amused. Sad.

edited 28th Feb '17 7:12:35 AM by Swanpride

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#154: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:14:32 AM

This was the first time I ever heard of this.

...So many wasted years. sad

Also, I'm not sure whether to be flattered or horrified to see that our current POS POTUS was the "inspiration" for several of those floats.

edited 28th Feb '17 7:17:00 AM by M84

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#155: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:55:19 AM

[up] Should have seen the ones after the NSA affair....American politics tend to bleed into the floats because it does have an impact on Germany, though it is rarely that much in focus. We have enough own politicians to call out.

edited 28th Feb '17 7:57:48 AM by Swanpride

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#156: Feb 28th 2017 at 8:24:14 AM

About satirical carnival and art... the Holy Roman Empire did an awful lot to inspire generations of highly variable German, Diets/ Nederlands and Italian speakers up and down the continent. tongue

... Hungarian, Romainian, Romansch, Occitan and Lombard, too. Before somebody yells at me. tongue

edited 28th Feb '17 8:28:17 AM by Euodiachloris

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#157: Feb 28th 2017 at 9:28:52 AM

Some of the floats here are nasty and visceral - and that's a damn good thing. There hasn't been anything like it on this side of the pond since Thomas Nast took on Boss Tweed, or Walt Kelly took on Joseph Mc Carthy.

In America, even with the current political situation, people are afraid to really go all out and nasty with making fun of the morons who populate the news. Nobody wants to do utterly dehumanizing caricatures of these people, the sort of thing that would really make them angry. And even when they do show up they feel whiny and outraged instead of the pleasurable nastiness that these floats show.

So kudos to Germany for showing the world how making fun of people ought to be done.

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#158: Feb 28th 2017 at 10:06:18 AM

Well, there are some who criticize them as too direct and on the nose and therefore unfunny, but, well, that is the typical Carnival humour...you either like it or you don't. Plus, there is the concept of "Narrenfreiheit" (roughly translated the freedom of the fool), meaning that people who go to Carnival are free to act out as much as they want (as long as they don't break any laws, naturally). Call it the outlet to usually being correct and efficient....

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#159: Feb 28th 2017 at 10:09:36 AM

Well, if I were going to vote on the best one I'd say the one of the foreground. It immediately hit home. Really shows, Liberty needs her wingwoman.

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#160: Feb 28th 2017 at 10:15:01 AM

[up] Apparently people agree....this is actually a voting side, so the one on the top get the most votes at being the best.

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#161: Feb 28th 2017 at 11:09:13 AM

I'd also like to say that many Americans fear that drawing or making artistic caricatures of certain figures may result in Unfortunate Implications in regards to their opinions on race.

Many satirical illustrators drew Obama more realistically in contrast to white politicians out of fear that they'd be perceived as drawing inspiration from historical artwork depicting blacks are large lipped and big nosed.

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#162: Feb 28th 2017 at 3:32:53 PM

[up]Though his big ears were never off limits. Even to him.

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#163: Mar 11th 2017 at 5:33:16 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQkV5cTuoY

Just throwing that in...sorry for just linking instead of embedding, the markup help doesn't open for me.

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#164: Mar 11th 2017 at 6:21:32 AM

Vegan sausage.

Why is this allowed?

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#165: Mar 11th 2017 at 11:53:42 AM

[up] I guess because it hurts nobody but the tastebuds of the people who actually eat the stuff.

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#166: Mar 11th 2017 at 2:10:39 PM

I'm not sure that a people who wear socks with sandals can ever be considered truly civilized.

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#167: Mar 11th 2017 at 7:51:37 PM

[up] Savages. tongue

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#169: Mar 14th 2017 at 11:02:18 PM

[up] Only the East Germans would want them.

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#170: Mar 15th 2017 at 1:35:29 AM

Lots of Westies like Marx too.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#171: Mar 15th 2017 at 6:08:51 AM

I mean, there are a few degrees of separation between celebrating Marx, and celebrating Lenin, Stalin, Mao, et all.

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#172: Mar 15th 2017 at 6:17:14 AM

[up] Yeah, Marx was just a philosopher and a writer. As far as I know, he never actually killed anyone or ordered people slaughtered.

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#173: Mar 15th 2017 at 6:30:24 AM

He was a keen and insightful dude who did a lot to help working class people get a less horrendously shitty deal in life, and laid out the groundwork for dramatic improvements in the study of history and society.

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#174: Mar 15th 2017 at 6:48:06 AM

I mean, the University of London is fine with having a statue of Adam Smith. I fail to see the problem, aside from the fact that it's a gift of friendship from China.

edited 15th Mar '17 6:48:20 AM by math792d

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
Zarastro Since: Sep, 2010
#175: Mar 15th 2017 at 7:28:33 AM

[up] Whats wrong with Adam Smith?

Yeah, I see nothing wrong with having statues from Marx and Engels, both not were very important persons who contributed massively to our understansing of history, economy et al. They also did a lot for workers' rights and poor people in general.

It is just ironic that China donates statues of them (they also donated statues of Engels in e.g Wuppertal) while still censoring some of their works.

edited 15th Mar '17 7:32:29 AM by Zarastro


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