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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#26: Oct 25th 2016 at 9:04:55 AM

I am not so sure we need a crowner or a set of guidelines - humour is not easy to legislate. We most assuredly do not need a load of red tape here. My sense is that since we have started cutting the obviously lame ones, the problem has mostly faded.

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rafi Since: Jun, 2014
#27: Oct 25th 2016 at 2:53:20 PM

Agree with delete all. It is just a waste of time.

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#28: Oct 25th 2016 at 3:19:53 PM

There are two practical issues that have been brought up before. I'll restate them here.

The first is that people would use the SD pages instead of the regular work pages for crosswicking and the like. While this has been cleaned up somewhat, a major problem that remains is that ComicBook.Deadpool remains nothing more than a redirect to his SD page, meaning that until someone gets around to writing a non-SD page for his comics, we're still going to have wiki-side confusion about the intent of such character pages, and the SD namespace itself. I think fixing this should have been priority number one, and still is.

The second is that new readers coming in and reaching incorrect conclusions about the site. The problem is that any page that isn't a trope page can conceivably do this, and we've seen this before. There are people who come to the site specifically to participate in a single thread about a single topic, and do nothing else. There are people who do nothing but edit YMMV pages. And so on. This is a bit of an empty objection, and has no real bearing...but people brought it up anyway.

As long as the SD character pages don't intrude on the main wiki, and don't generate any other problems that are specific to them, they aren't a horrible bane that needs to be cut. They're just there for those who like them, and can be ignored by those who don't.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#30: Oct 26th 2016 at 11:08:57 PM

[up][up][up] The people who made the pages obviously did not think it was a waste of time and as long as it's kept separate from the main pages it's not a waste of your time as well, out of sight out of mind.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#31: Oct 26th 2016 at 11:12:01 PM

It is a waste of time having to keep dealing with the terrible, generic imitation pages that people make for every character imaginable after seeing the namespace, however.

TropesForever from TropesForever Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: I love you for psychological reasons
#32: Oct 27th 2016 at 9:25:37 PM

I thought we already had guidelines to get rid of the really awful ones? The ones that are there, I don't find all of them funny, but a lot of people do. I don't want them to be cut just because I don't find them funny.

SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#33: Oct 28th 2016 at 7:54:25 AM

Closing this per this staff decision. To whit, Self Demonstrating pages can only stay if they are reasonably funny/interesting/engaging. This rules out things like the I-AM-GROOT-repeated-a-few-times page. If someone keeps creating them you can ask for intervention on Ask The Tropers. Discussion about whether a page should stay or not can occur in the abovelinked thread.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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