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Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#176: Oct 30th 2016 at 12:05:17 PM

I know, but I still feel hopelessly lost whenever I hit on a song outside my comfort zone that I like, without even trying to tie it into anything else. It just totally derails me because I'm like "I shouldn't like this song because it's not normally something I'd like, but somehow I am."

But either way, it still jams up my thinking. Like, I like "Radioactive". That's not usually the kind of song I like, in terms of subject matter and really not so much in terms of sound either. What is it doing right for me?

StillbornMachine Since: Aug, 2015
#177: Oct 30th 2016 at 12:13:20 PM

That's not a particularly unusual phenomenon. There's a fair share of bands in styles I normally dislike myself (Soul Remnants, Nevermore, Sorcier des Glaces, Blood Farmers etc.). but I focus less on "they're in a style I typically don't like" and more on "their music is actually good unlike bands in said style". Simple; the associations ultimately aren't even musical and therefore not worth one's time or consideration.

Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
#178: Oct 30th 2016 at 1:10:33 PM

focus less on the negatives and more on the positives basically

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Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#179: Oct 30th 2016 at 10:13:29 PM

[up]The positives are there, but I have no clue what they are. Just "this song is good, but fuck me if I know why".

Small_Mess I like noises. from Orenburg, Russia Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
I like noises.
#180: Oct 31st 2016 at 1:17:21 AM

To figure out the positives you just need to listen to it more, for a long period of time. This kind of experience comes gradually. When I first discovered Primus I wasn't sure what to think of it because the music was so weird and there was little to no vocals compared to what I used to listen to back then. I knew it was good in some strange way though. So I just kept listening on and on. Frank Zappa took me half a year to figure out, but eventually it came to me. Long story short, give it time.

Nonsense is better than no sense at all.
StillbornMachine Since: Aug, 2015
#181: Oct 31st 2016 at 9:19:48 AM

If you're having trouble figuring out how to word things, simply listen in on more musical discussions. You don't need to be a musician yourself to understand music but figuring out a way to convey what you think of specific musical characteristics and how they affect your enjoyment help.

edited 31st Oct '16 11:18:55 AM by StillbornMachine

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#182: Oct 31st 2016 at 10:12:15 AM

[up]I actually am a musician.

StillbornMachine Since: Aug, 2015
#183: Oct 31st 2016 at 11:18:36 AM

Then you have even less reason to be so bewildered.

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#184: Oct 31st 2016 at 8:12:35 PM

I think I like the Truckers song, but fuck me if I can make sense of the lyrics. What does decoration have to do with anything?

Turns out Decoration Day is another name for Memorial Day. And now I'm even more confused because I don't see what the song has to do with Memorial Day.

Then you have even less reason to be so bewildered.

I'm still dealing with a BUNCH of elements I'm radically unfamiliar with.

StillbornMachine Since: Aug, 2015
#185: Oct 31st 2016 at 9:19:02 PM

Something people deal with by familiarizing themselves with. Simple really. Anything alien becomes everyday once you encounter it frequently enough.

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#186: Oct 31st 2016 at 11:34:32 PM

[up]That still doesn't help with lyrics

Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
#187: Nov 1st 2016 at 4:40:25 AM

If you're so concerned with trying to figure out what a song's lyrics mean, do some research into the song or look up the song on Genius.

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golgothasArisen Since: Jan, 2015
#188: Nov 1st 2016 at 5:29:55 AM

We've already tried suggesting that, but he deflected it by saying that the fact that other people can somehow understand it leaves him even more confused.

"If you spend all your heart / On something that has died / You are not alive and that can't be a life"
Sedmikrasky straight up just a bear from the woods Since: Apr, 2016
straight up just a bear
#189: Nov 1st 2016 at 8:53:14 AM

why are you guys still responding, he's beyond helping

StillbornMachine Since: Aug, 2015
#190: Nov 1st 2016 at 11:04:24 AM

Actually, that's completely valid for lyrics, novels, films, comics and so on. Not getting it the first few times around is a completely normal thing but you don't have to actually understand something as it was intended to be a real fan of it. Again, a lot of things only make sense years later when your frames of reference have altered and changed.

Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
#191: Nov 2nd 2016 at 2:18:04 AM

[up][up][up]I know, I've been in this thread since around its beginning dude haha.

[up][up]eh, it's kinda fascinating to me.

[up]agreed

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Sedmikrasky straight up just a bear from the woods Since: Apr, 2016
straight up just a bear
#192: Nov 2nd 2016 at 7:29:15 AM

[up][up]This. Persona is one of the deepest, most confusing films I've seen. I still don't really understand what the hell it's about but it's still one of my favorite films. Figuring out the meaning is just one of the fun things about music, film, literature, whatever.

edited 2nd Nov '16 7:32:09 AM by Sedmikrasky

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#193: Nov 17th 2016 at 5:15:53 PM

I still have no idea how to get myself to just stop overthinking everything. Been listening to the Black Album to see what happens, what clicks, etc.

Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
#194: Nov 18th 2016 at 9:47:08 AM

Therapy. Literally, the only genuine suggestion I can give you at this point is therapy.

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