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Imoo57 Since: Aug, 2012
#1: Jul 27th 2016 at 3:11:59 PM

I can handle the clean up of this particular entry myself (Though input is welcome) but I needed to show this to confirm misuse with the other tropers.

I mean boy howdy look at this mess.

  • Game of Thrones:
    • Tyrion Lannister has Cersei Lannister, Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish, Tywin Lannister, Joffrey Baratheon, Shae, and Grand Maester Pycelle.
    • Daenerys Targaryen and her allies have the Sons of the Harpy.
    • Jon Snow has Ramsay Bolton, the Night's King, Ygritte, Alliser Thorne, Mance Rayder, Janos Slynt, and Karl Tanner.
    • Arya Stark has Cersei Lannister, Joffrey Baratheon, Gregor Clegane, Meryn Trant, the Waif, and Polliver.
    • Sansa Stark has Cersei Lannister, Joffrey Baratheon, Ramsay Bolton, and Roose Bolton.
    • Bran Stark has the Night's King.
    • Eddard "Ned Stark" had Cersei Lannister, Jaime Lannister, Tywin Lannister, Rhaegar Targaryen, and Aerys II Targeryen.
    • Catelyn Stark had Cersei Lannister, Jaime Lannister, Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish, Tywin Lannister, Lysa Arryn, and Walder Frey.
    • Theon Greyjoy has Ramsay Bolton, Roose Bolton, and Euron Greyjoy.
    • Samwell Tarly has Randyll Tarly and Rast.
    • Davos Seaworth has Melisandre and Ramsay Bolton.
    • Brienne of Tarth had Stannis Baratheon and Melisandre.
    • Varys has Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish and Grand Maester Pycelle.
    • Robb Stark had Tywin Lannister, Joffrey Baratheon, Walder Frey, and Balon Greyjoy.
    • Stannis Baratheon had Cersei Lannister, Tywin Lannister, Joffrey Baratheon, Roose Bolton, and Renly Baratheon.
    • Margery Tyrell, Olenna Tyrell, and Loras Tyrell have Cersei Lannister, Stannis Baratheon, and the High Sparrow.
    • Sandor "the Hound" Clegane, Oberyn Martell, and Beric Dondarrion all have Gregor "the Mountain" Clegane.
    • Bronn had Meryn Trant.
    • Robert Baratheon had Rhaegar Targeryen and Aerys II Targeryen. Viserys Targeryen tried to be this, but he was extremely unsuccessful.
    • Jeor Mormont and Qhorin Halfhand had Mance Rayder.
    • Bryden "Blashfish" Tully had Walder Frey.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#2: Jul 27th 2016 at 4:30:41 PM

Yep, pretty much all of that is misuse. It seems whoever added to that list forgot the distinction between Arch-Enemy and just plain "enemy". It's difficult for a character to have more than one Arch-Enemy to begin with. A bunch of others fall into just straight-up Unknown Rival.

The only characters from that giant list that I could possibly see count are:

  • Cersei and Tyrion (debatably, since he's just as adverserial with his father).
  • Littlefinger and Varys (the only example I'm absolutely positive on given their personal rivalry and deepseated distaste of each other).
  • Robert and Rhaegar (possibly, since we only hear Robert's side of the story).

None of the other character come close to displaying the kind of personal enmity as adversaries that those characters do (well, except for the Clegane brothers, but they only appear onscreen together once). I'd delete all the rest.

edited 27th Jul '16 4:44:43 PM by Morgenthaler

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#3: Jul 28th 2016 at 6:45:48 AM

Christ, honestly the entire Game Of Thrones character pages need a lot of cleanup.

Every single "Adaptational" trope gets overused to the point that it's "Has done something different than in the books" leading to tons of characters being both an Adaptational Badass and a Wimp, Adaptational Villainy and Heroism, etc.

Foil also gets grossly overused to simply mean a comparison can theoretically be made between the two.

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#4: May 12th 2017 at 9:28:23 AM

[up] I agree so much about the Foiltrope. Every child gets compared to every other child on the show, every nobleman is compared to all other noblemen... Most of them ever even met or were compared in any way on the show.

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