God's Not Dead 2

Base them in China.

Seriously, you want to do a film about Christians being persecuted then you need to base it in a country where that actually happens on a systematic level.

edited 25th Apr '16 9:36:34 PM by Silasw

As mentioned in the other thread, historical films based around Christians' struggles seem to be much better, such as Ben Hur and (Director's Cut of) Kingdom of Heaven. You know, when there are actually tangible conflicts.

Or hell, what about Christians in Arabic world? Syria and Lebanon has a significant Christian population and you don't need to be told that they have more than enough conflict worthy of a both gripping and poignant movie about Christianity.

Oh, and God's Not Dead: Hurry, Roll the Dice Again!

Excellent ideas guys. These actually sound really good.

I believe that you can have a story filled with real and identifiable conflict involving Christians in America. But that sure as hell wouldn't work if you have American Christians as the persecuted.

How about a story focusing on American Christians...who fight against other Christians who are consumed by fundamentalism and nationalism, in a more conservative parts in America. It could be about Christians protecting Muslims, gay people, atheists, etc against people like Westboro Baptist Church and such.

It sure as hell would make a movie than this godforsaken series.

God's Not Dead: Goddamn It

edited 25th Apr '16 10:07:05 PM by dRoy

But the isssue hwre is that this movie is propaganda of the cultural wars conversative christianity is facing now, everything else is just a movie with christians, in fact movie base on the bible downplay god a lot.

Also, god is not dead: Rise from your grave!

These movies should be about defending religion in general

Also God's not dead: Shreck is love Shreck is life

They are. They just do it horribly. It should be something like Kingdom of Heaven, maintaining your faith in God even when all around people abuse that faith to commit atrocities, or through war in general.

Kindomn on Heaven is more about tolerance and the pointless to kill each other for "sacred" place, as Saladin tell "this place worth nothing....and everything" is a sotry about christian in a specfic context

You know what, (Director's Cut of) Kingdom of Heaven is perfect Christian movie, in that it contains Christian's conflict against both non-Christians and Christians, out and inside.

God's Not Dead: And He's Angry

edited 26th Apr '16 1:38:05 PM by dRoy

I'll raise one even better: The Mission.

.....Okay, is it bad if the first thing I did upon clicking the image is laughing at the page image?

God's Not Dead: Highway to Heaven.

It reminds me of that one scene from The Emperors New Groove.

I thought the first movie was really good, but I haven't seen the second. Christians are persecuted in America, though its nothing compared to what happens n other countries. I think a movie about Christians in muslim lands or china would be great.

I would hardly say we're persecuted in a country where Christians are the vast majority. And "having to treat other people with respect" does not equal "persecution".

You could do a film about the struggle that the pro-LGBT churches in the US have had, the legal limits on them being able to perform marriages as their religon defines them, the legal hurdles they've faced, the fact that they've been drowned out by people claiming to be the same as them, the discrimination they've faced from non-American churches trying to force their own definition of marriage and spirituality onto them.

Christians are shown as stupid by the media, forced to act against their beliefs, ect. I know its nothing compared to what happens over sees and might seem like not a big deal, but there is persecution, just not as much as elsewhere.

Well, a lot of people claiming to be Christians ARE dumb dog stupid. Take for example THAT church we may not name. Then again there are people across all religions who are dumb dog stupid, as well as lots of atheists and agnostics. Stupidity is one of the ecumenical traits, sadly.

I, personally, understand where you and other devout Christians have gotten this idea. The current American generation has striven to move away from organized religion in favor of a more scientific, world-inclusive, and overall liberal stance, and that hasn't been all sunshine and rainbows.

You get a lot of "atheists" (really anti-theists) online denouncing faith in it's entirety, treating the devout as idiots who deny the "truth" of things. Then you have the other end of the spectrum, where lack of care has lead to ignorance. A Catholic friend of mine went to Ash Wednesday this year and had to deal with people joking about "the dirt on her face", and I personally have had the odd pleasure of explaining Passover to a group of Jews.

But here's the thing: This isn't persecution. This isn't oppression. Sure, it'd be nice if people could be smarter and kinder about it, but you're not actually being forced to hide or sacrifice your beliefs. You possess the freedom and the right to do as you will.

I can't comment on American media but the point about being forced to act against their bellies is a fair one, I know I've gotten pretty angry at Republicans for enforcing their definition of marriage on Christians who simply want to practise their faith and marry their faithful to those they love.

If you want a good modern Christian film, look towards the Belgian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-v-Sw4yzLA

edited 27th Apr '16 9:45:10 AM by 123tbones

I'd think a good idea for one of these films is one that looks a t a legitimately thorny and controversial issue where the audience can see legitimate points from both sides .

Same. I know I sound like a shill but Kingdom of Heaven has noble characters leading both factions, both of whom would prefer to avoid war despite the hawkish preferences of their subordinates. Not to mention that scene at the end of Saladin in the church and replacing the crucifix on the altar.

this oppression rhetoric seems to stem from the fact THEY can no longer oppress people their book of stories say are bad, because the bible says they're bad, that makes them bad, m'kay?

Gods Not Dead? well he's starting to smell....

Does anyone know any good movie about Christian and Islamic co-existence?

God's Not Dead: Die Holy

edited 27th Apr '16 12:28:54 PM by dRoy

the non war bits of Kingdom of Heaven spring to mind, it showed Christians and Muslims living in peace... I think, it has been a while since I saw it