Misused: Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly

Seriously, there are lots of tropes that occasionally have multiple examples from the same work. That's never been a reason to split them before. It shouldn't be a reason to split now.

edited 26th Jun '16 5:22:23 PM by shimaspawn

But the whole Type A, Type B and Type C style has been constantly cleaned up and split and yada yet here we are for doing that? Those types of things generate a messy page in examples and description and tend to massively attract ZC Es.

But shrug I am outnumbered...

Type labels are bad and you should feel bad.

We aren't doing type labels. We aren't splitting this in any way shape or form. If there are multiple examples from a work, you do it the same way you do every other thing that has multiple examples:

• Work Name/Trope Name
  • Example 1
  • Example 2
  • Example 3

It's not that hard.

Although there are multiple types of genre, there is only one type of genre mash. This is because a music genre mashup is functionally equivalent to a gameplay genre mashup. So no extra text needs to be written to distinguish the two types.

So, is this good for the crowner options or am I missing something?

1. Make Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly a music-only trope and create a new trope called Genre Mashup for other works which will hold the non-music examples from Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly as well as misplaced examples from Genre-Busting.
2. Make the description of Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly broader to include all kinds of works and move in misplaced examples from Genre-Busting. Create Genre Mashup as a redirect to Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly to be used for non-music works.
3. Same as 2, but with Genre Mashup being the trope page and Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly being the redirect for Music examples.

Looks good to me.

Crowner made.

And hooked, thanks.

Crowner Bump

Now we need a rewrite of the trope description for Genre Mashup. Anybody?

There's a ykttw called Genre Mashup, but it's stale.

Bumped that one.

Regarding the migration of misplaced examples from Genre-Busting:

Had a closer look at the Anime section of Genre-Busting. But without actually having seen the works, I find it hard to say if an example is "just a mashup of genres" as compared to "combining genres in unconventional way to create something original". Very strictly judging, Genre-Busting could be a lonely place after the move. Any opinion how to proceed with the categorization?

Before anything else, we should note that we also have Mix And Match.

So, no one knows? I suggested that Mix And Match is written as Troperithmetic while Genre Mashup is written normally. But we need a more opinions.

This discussion is dead. I could just rewrite the description myself, if no one else wants to do anything. Seriously, I sometimes add examples to this trope, and it's painful.

^ Please sandbox us something.

Done. I'm still going to add the misused examples from Genre-Busting.

Should probably add something like: "Compare to Recycled In Space where a new genre may be pasted onto an existing story."

eta: (replaced "is" with "may be", since Recycled... doesn't necessarily result in a new genre.)

edited 25th Oct '16 1:47:04 PM by Xtifr

Done. You could have done it yourself, you know. Just because it's a sandbox doesn't mean it only I can edit it. I'm going to need help figuring out which examples from Genre-Busting are misuse and which ones can stay.

edited 25th Oct '16 2:10:25 PM by TropesForever

x8 I'm running into this problem as well. Some examples seem to be both Genre Mashup and Genre-Busting, but It's hard to tell without being familiar with the work. For example, Cowboy Bebop seems to be standard Genre Mashup, but is written with enough hyperbole to make it sound like Genre-Busting. Apart from anything else, I need to remove excessive gushing.

edited 25th Oct '16 2:25:02 PM by TropesForever

That's what prompted my statement in the Genre-Busting TRS thread:

Between "how can you tell a new genre if it fails to get imitated", "you can always describe a work by citing what traits it has in common with other works", and "gusher's gonna gush", I think our actions should be:

• Example Sectionectomy (no examples on the page)
• Examples on work pages should be above-the-line, as standard for genre tropes.
• Rename for clarity. (Mashup seems reasonable)

Do you mean Neoclassical Punk Zydecorockabilly or Genre-Busting? If the former, I don't think it needs to be that extreme. Once Genre Mashup is fixed, it will be fine. Genre-Busting is the troublesome one.