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eyebones Since: Apr, 2004
#1: Dec 31st 2015 at 9:32:03 PM

Every once in a while somebody goes on bit of a tear through old threads, necrotizing for no real reason. Since we have a new year, would it be a good time to go through non-sticky threads and at least close those that haven't had a post in over a year? It would do away with a nuisance.

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#2: Dec 31st 2015 at 9:51:27 PM

I'm not sure necroing is so prominent that the effort of dealing with them as they crop up is more than any effort to preemptively deal with them.

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#3: Dec 31st 2015 at 10:22:20 PM

Having something do it automatically would be reasonable, but manually is ridiculous

eyebones Since: Apr, 2004
#4: Dec 31st 2015 at 10:22:56 PM

True. If it can't be done with a few lines of SQL, there is no reason to bother with it.

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#5: Jan 1st 2016 at 2:18:09 AM

Maybe use some kind of bot...

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#6: Jan 1st 2016 at 6:59:19 PM

Auto Locking things in certain forums that haven't been touched in a while makes sense. I think the media threads can be left alone, but there are other forums that would be well served by some locking.

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#7: Jan 1st 2016 at 7:10:36 PM

If by media threads you mean threads about specific works or series, that's fine. More general topic threads I'd be a little more hesitant about allowing to get necroed. (If they aren't important enough to get stickied, they aren't important enough to be protected from bad necro violations.)

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#8: Jan 2nd 2016 at 5:24:42 AM

On Topic has fairly regular pointless necros and a surprisingly large number of threads that are back logged have been there for quite a while. Just clicking on page 4 of OTC you get a large number of threads that were made back in 2013 and haven't been touched since. There are threads in that list that go back to 2010 same thing.

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#9: Jan 2nd 2016 at 9:28:13 AM

We don't mind OTC necros necessarily, but they need to introduce a genuinely new line of conversation, not merely reply to something posted a year or more ago as if the conversation were still active.

edited 2nd Jan '16 9:28:18 AM by Fighteer

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#10: Jan 2nd 2016 at 11:07:16 AM

The problem is more often then not they are pointless necros. I have only seen a handful of threads that got brought back with those criteria. Even then several of those didn't remain open for long as the conversation degraded over a couple pages.

To add to this. Several of the older threads topics have long since been rolled under larger threads that encompass the topics in a general sense. Those threads also tend to be better monitored.

edited 2nd Jan '16 11:10:32 AM by TuefelHundenIV

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#11: Jan 8th 2016 at 2:45:22 AM

So, is there support for autolocking all threads with the last post older than one year that aren't a) media threads or b) stickied?

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#12: Jan 8th 2016 at 6:17:10 AM

No argument against from me, FWIW.

edited 8th Jan '16 6:17:21 AM by Nohbody

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#13: Jan 8th 2016 at 7:04:41 AM

Well, the threads with the rule of having a single thread for a topic I don't think should be auto-locked. Same for various workshop threads covering an issue. Though, most of them are active enough anyway, or Media threads.

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#14: Jan 8th 2016 at 6:36:48 PM

It seems to matter where said threads are located. Media threads should be left open as we have a general rule of one thread per work style rule IIRC. Workshop threads is another that should definitely be left alone until handled by the system for clean up.

Edit: Checking the edit banned thread saw Fighteer mention they are working on something to possibly trim old threads so I think we can sit on this on this one until we learn more.

edited 8th Jan '16 7:33:25 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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#15: Jan 9th 2016 at 2:08:16 AM

That something is this thread.

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#16: Jan 9th 2016 at 5:51:45 AM

Septimus: I don't recall seeing anything about code to handle that being mentioned by Fighteer in this thread anywhere or any actual action to be taken at a future date to possibly deal with the issue.

edited 9th Jan '16 5:53:16 AM by TuefelHundenIV

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#17: Jan 9th 2016 at 5:56:18 AM

Huh?

We're going to develop code to automatically close old threads; in the meantime, chain necroing is a bannable offense.
does explicitly mention code.

edited 9th Jan '16 5:56:29 AM by SeptimusHeap

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#18: Jan 9th 2016 at 6:22:37 AM

You said that something is this thread. What you just shared is not even posted in this thread or even about it. We haven't heard much beyond Fighteer's one comment in thread.

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#19: Jan 9th 2016 at 6:28:43 AM

Not sure why a "code to close old threads" topic would be unrelated to this one ... unless you mean a thread asking specifically for its implementation.

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#20: Jan 9th 2016 at 10:42:57 AM

The point of my earlier post pointing it out was to A. obviously say there is something in the works that the thread had not been told yet especially given how new the info was and I literally stumbled onto it. B. Pointing out we should probably sit on this one a bit and wait to hear from the mods as such a thing will pertain to the thread in general but given how new it is, is unlikely to have any details ready to share with us beyond the info we found on our own.

Namely I expect one of the mods, likely Fighteer, to come back at some point and share any pertinent details and possibly direct us to a new discussion thread that will be along the lines of "We are looking to do this we would like some input/feedback." Either that or start asking us for some feedback here based on what they tell the thread a that point.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#21: Jan 9th 2016 at 11:19:36 AM

Well, I am a moderator and there is nothing in the works beyond what is said here.

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#22: Jan 9th 2016 at 12:04:17 PM

Like I pointed out earlier he literally only mentioned it once in Edit Banned and no where else so maybe he is picking the brains of the Admins about it before putting out for broader discussion.

If it is really important for further discussion we could probably ask him.

edited 9th Jan '16 12:05:14 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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#23: Jan 18th 2016 at 4:02:20 AM

So, anyone opposed to this proposal? Excluding media threads, that is.

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