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Zansnae793 Since: Apr, 2014
#1: Dec 3rd 2015 at 9:06:45 AM

According to the rules, linking to Danbooru is prohibited because it used to host NSFW ads. However, nowadays Danbooru no longer hosts ads and is this ad-free. Can linking to SFW Danbooru images or should we fall back to using Safebooru? Directly linking to Pixiv would not be an option due to the fact that at times Suggestive Images may pop up at the "Suggested images" sidebar which could be NSFW.

Thank you for your reply.

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#2: Dec 4th 2015 at 2:59:28 AM

Moved to Wiki Talk.

Danbooru was originally banned because of NSFW ads. If they no longer run NSFW ads the ban could be relaxed.

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#3: Dec 4th 2015 at 10:06:43 AM

There haven't been ads there for a long time now, and I've on occasion used it for images in IP without anyone raising a concern, as well as multiple threads.

The way I see it it's only the rule that needs to be rephrased, since the definition of it is about the ads, not the specific site. It just lists it as an example, even if it isn't anymore.

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#4: Dec 4th 2015 at 10:59:59 AM

Would it be enough to simply append something like "Image SFW, site isn't, browse at own risk" or something similar when linking?

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#5: Dec 4th 2015 at 12:35:43 PM

"Google is a click away from gross porn." - Clarste

"That's true, if you type in a relevant search term. If you just type "Princess Zelda," you probably won't get multiple nsfw results on the top page." - Durazno

...How much do you use Google? Sure, that's true most of the time, but there's a reason Google has Safe Search... Edit: Or, more accurately, that it had.

More to the point, TV Tropes doesn't have a problem with this in general, so even if Danbooru is ultimately a very inappropriate site, why should they have a problem with people linking to safe for work content?

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edited 4th Dec '15 12:40:20 PM by GM_3826

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#6: Dec 4th 2015 at 12:39:24 PM

We don't have a problem with people linking to SFW content. We do have a problem with someone clicking a link that they think is safe for work and getting an eyeful of pornographic advertisements.

If Danbooru is no longer at risk of that, then it would fall under our other guidelines, which simply include the requirement to label any NSFW link in a forum post as such, and not post them on the wiki at all.

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#7: Dec 4th 2015 at 1:08:54 PM

[up] Well, hey, there's our answer! gringringrin Thanks so much, Fighteer! My PM to you is kinda obsolete now, I guess.

If Danbooru is no longer at risk of that

Yes, that's the case!

then it would fall under our other guidelines, which simply include the requirement to label any NSFW link in a forum post as such

...and we've always been doing that.

So, I'm gonna bookmark this thread to have ready if this discussion should arise again. Hopefully, Danbooru is now finally no longer filed under "forbidden" in the rules, if it mistakenly still was.

edited 4th Dec '15 1:14:18 PM by FellDeedsAwake

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#8: Dec 4th 2015 at 1:26:06 PM

I edited the main forum rules to remove the specific callout for Danbooru in the content section.

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#9: Dec 4th 2015 at 2:27:35 PM

We might also want to update the Image Booru page's section on Danbooru and Safebooru to reflect this, too. I'd do so myself, but I don't want to presume to speak for the mods.

edited 4th Dec '15 2:29:22 PM by Lightblade

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Zansnae793 Since: Apr, 2014
#10: Dec 4th 2015 at 3:09:52 PM

Thanks for the clarification Fighteer!

edited 4th Dec '15 3:10:06 PM by Zansnae793

StephanReiken Since: May, 2010
#11: Dec 4th 2015 at 3:11:50 PM

Linking to Danbooru is not SFW regardless of what you link. You click into Danbooru and 15/26 links on that page will bring up port (and most likely a p5 violation or two).

Do you think it's okay to link to a list of pornographic links? Because the page you link to happens to not have porn?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#12: Dec 4th 2015 at 3:15:17 PM

Stuff hidden behind another click doesn't count towards NSFW-ness at all.

Dunno about the "directory" issue, it sounds a bit like hyperbole to me, but that's just me.

edited 4th Dec '15 3:15:33 PM by SeptimusHeap

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