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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#451: Nov 30th 2015 at 8:51:20 PM

Atra's supposedly 15, according to the creators.

So is Mikazuki, for that matter.

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#452: Nov 30th 2015 at 8:53:02 PM

Christ, I thought they'd be older.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#453: Dec 1st 2015 at 12:04:10 AM

That's actually older than I'd have guessed for either of them, myself. Atra I would have put at somewhere between around 9 and 11, and Mika about 12-13.

Odd to have the official ages of anime characters higher than I thought, for once.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#454: Dec 1st 2015 at 2:33:11 PM

[up] Actually now that I think about it, Atra being so short might actually be a plot point. Malnutrition at a young age can stunt your growth.

KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#455: Dec 1st 2015 at 4:40:26 PM

I just come here to read the opinions, i actually never watched any series in emision. Never, i just can't wait for a week and prefer wait for months.

[up][up] Despite i never watched the episode i go to tell you: That Naze guy is scary as fuck. Seriously, that is just insane. Having children with your harem of under-age girls?. You're Scirocco interdimentional master.

And also...

Iron-Blooded Orphans hasn't been very subtle with its characters so far. Everyone is either a Despicable Evil Honorless Coward or a Noble But Ruthless Man Who Does What He Has To Do. Naze is treated more like the latter, but seriously he's got a fucking harem. The amount of dissonance there is boggling my mind.
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The same issue than 2003!FMA anime?. Or you`re a Anti-Villain or a cantidate to Complete Monster?.

I just say something. I watched the first two caps and so...My predictions was right!.

(Seriously, looked pretty obvious for the start who nearly all the villains are gonna be a variant of a Dirty Coward and/or a Smug Snake).

Watch me destroying my country
TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#456: Dec 1st 2015 at 4:46:21 PM

Where the hell did you get the idea Naze's wives are underage?

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KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#457: Dec 1st 2015 at 4:52:15 PM

[up] I read bad other messages.

For other theme....actually this series suffer for split the villains between Anti Villains and nearly-Complete Monster?

Just i want know. I´m curious.

edited 1st Dec '15 5:04:15 PM by KazuyaProta

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#458: Dec 1st 2015 at 5:17:46 PM

The original leaders of CGS were pretty damn monstrous, at least in their treatment of the main characters. But they're no longer relevant to the story.

Ever since then, the antagonists have been portrayed as normal people. Which is par for the course for Gundam, really. The franchise is usually fond of Grey-and-Grey Morality.

And yeah, I'm not getting where you think any of Naze's harem are underage. There's a few who look to be late teens/early twenties, and are certainly younger than Naze himself, but there's been no suggestion of him as an ephebophile. (I'll also point out that we don't know what the age of consent in the IBO universe is.)

edited 1st Dec '15 5:18:51 PM by DarkHunter

KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#459: Dec 1st 2015 at 5:21:27 PM

I read bad other messages, i apologize. Really.

Naze still make me uncorfortable anyway.

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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#460: Dec 1st 2015 at 5:25:11 PM

Not surprising. He is Jupiter Yakuza.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#461: Dec 1st 2015 at 8:27:56 PM

The vast majority of Naze's harem seem like teenage girls rather than adult women, with the sole exception being Amida. Call me a prude, I guess, but an adult man (Naze is, what? Late 20s, early 30s?) fathering children on his harem of teenage girls is pretty fucking sleezy. The fact that no one else (in-universe, I mean) seems to think it's anything other than a harmless eccentricity just makes it creepy, too.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#462: Dec 1st 2015 at 9:12:37 PM

I guess it's the facts that all the girls in the harem don't seem to have been forced into it (ie, they're not sex slaves) and are alright with the idea, and Naze clearly has the finances to support such a large "family".

If it's consensual and he can pay for it, what's the issue? (Note: I'm not stating my own thoughts on the ethics of the situation here, just playing devil's advocate and laying out a possible line of rationale.)

To speak my own thoughts, I do think it's rather sleazy, as Jovian puts it, that he's sleeping with so many women, most of whom seem younger than he is, but he is a Yakuza. I don't think he's supposed to be seen as a purely virtuous character by any means.

edited 1st Dec '15 9:12:55 PM by DarkHunter

Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#463: Dec 1st 2015 at 9:15:30 PM

[up][up]Weren't you one guessing Atra to be 10 years old? Seriously non of Naze girls looks younger than 18-20.

edited 1st Dec '15 10:38:54 PM by Tenzen12

Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
#464: Dec 1st 2015 at 9:16:47 PM

Looks like Ein may walk down the dark path...

'Tis sad that Junichi Suwabe didn't voice Orga... But oh well. tongue

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Rojixus Token Bad Guy from Cybertron Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Token Bad Guy
#466: Dec 6th 2015 at 12:42:54 AM

[up]Nice.

RIP Akira Toriyama, taken from us far too soon.
Hylarn (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#467: Dec 6th 2015 at 4:05:25 AM

Backstory today. Atra's is another entry in the "You guys are certain this is aimed at kids?" list, while Takaki and Akihiro are death-flagging. Meanwhile, Orga is utterly failing to show any interest in Merrybit

So, alright episode, but I'm starting to want a bit more plot movement

dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World
#468: Dec 6th 2015 at 4:13:19 AM

Episode 10

Wait... now that chick who Talked to Orga when he got Drunk in the Previous Episode is now Part of Tekkadan? Hmm... Orga Reluctantly Accepted the Offer and he was Blushing a little, i wonder if this is a Prelude to a Future Relationship.

In other news, it seems Atra used to Work at a Brothel (Thankfully Not in the Dirty Way) and she was Constantly Bullied by Everyone in the Damn place so she Ran Away, and now She... Wants to go the Harem Route with Mikazuki and Kudelia?! ...I Really dont know what to say about that.

Haha! Just as i hoped, Mikazuki and the Barbatos had a Big Damn Heroes moment!

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#469: Dec 6th 2015 at 5:38:31 AM

... Atra, I think you're misunderstanding something here, dear.

edited 6th Dec '15 6:05:10 AM by MyssaRei

RangerJackWalker Since: Sep, 2010
#470: Dec 6th 2015 at 6:12:07 AM

We've had dozens of death flags for pretty much every character and nothing has happened. In fact, I'll go so far as to predict that the vast majority of the cast won't die. And definitely not any time before the finale. The first few episodes having lots of (insignificant) character deaths seems to have coloured people's expectations. I don't think this will be a death heavy series.

Meanwhile, another episode goes by and Kudelia complains about how useless she is. I'm getting tired of her shit.

edited 6th Dec '15 6:18:57 AM by RangerJackWalker

Ernie AKA Kaymarx from Memphis Since: Jan, 2001
AKA Kaymarx
#471: Dec 6th 2015 at 7:48:59 AM

dood9780, sincere question: Is that how capitalization works in Spanish? (Or whatever the Chilean dialect is called?)

Should've checked the list.
dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World
#472: Dec 6th 2015 at 8:31:02 AM

[up] I Actually... Dont know, Since I have not gone to School since i was 13. (And I Was Asleep 80% of the time i did go)

edited 6th Dec '15 8:43:41 AM by dood9780

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#473: Dec 6th 2015 at 8:56:50 AM

Wait... now that chick who Talked to Orga when he got Drunk in the Previous Episode is now Part of Tekkadan? Hmm... Orga Reluctantly Accepted the Offer and he was Blushing a little, i wonder if this is a Prelude to a Future Relationship.

The impression I got was just that he was ashamed that she saw him in a moment of weakness (vomiting in a back alley is hardly Adult and In-Charge) and didn't want Naze or his crew hearing about that. Her being an Adult hanging around reflects poorly on his own Childishness in a way that makes him very uncomfortable.

edited 6th Dec '15 8:57:17 AM by Clarste

AntonioCC Since: May, 2012
#474: Dec 6th 2015 at 9:00:28 AM

[up][up][up] Actually it doesn't (I'm Spanish, BTW). It seems to be a quirk of Dood to write that way.

dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World
#475: Dec 6th 2015 at 9:05:25 AM

[up][up] Huh, I Can agree with that.

"Death's vastness holds no peace. I come at the end of the long road—neither human, nor devil... All bends to my will." -Demifiend.

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