Rokka no Yuusha

@Kotomikun

Actually according to Fremy and Hans Adlet is already quite infamous for breaking into the tournament.

Besides nobody recognizes Hans either and Fremy only became know recently, so i don't think that angle quite works.

I'm mainly thinking of bits like Chamot, a kid we've never seen before, waltzing in and immediately recognizing everyone, even Flamie, but blanking on Adlet.

He just seems like an outsider to this whole thing. The group consists of a princess and her bodyguard, an assassin, a double-agent, a priestess and her strongest disciple, and... some guy who randomly crashed a gladiator tournament and got thrown in prison, only getting out months later when he suddenly became a Brave. He sure made a name for himself with that stunt, but no one had ever heard of him before then.

I'm guessing he isn't responsible for turning on the barrier, but that that will turn out to be a double-fake-out later when he actually is the seventh ranger after all.

No one may have heard of him, but he has trained most of his life for this specific reason. Unless his back story is complete BS, I don't see him being the traitor/mole.

Yikes, Adelt has been pushed into a corner. He'll have to find a contradiction, no matter how small, and raise an objection to get out of this jam.

Also, Adelt got a taste of the strongest retorts to his strongest man claims. Ouch.

But darn, everyone has strong alibis. I guess it'll come down to whose alibi's the flimsiest...?

I feel kinda awkward that I read the trope page for this' light novel :P Since this turns out to be one of those "You thought plot twist already happened? Nope, there are multiple of them!" shows

Episode 6 is out:

Adelt deserves everything that happened to him. His defense was awful, his theories ranged from laughably weak to plain crazy, he even restored to going "No, U!" on Hans like it was preschool argument, and then he kidnapped Flaime.

And of course he believes the entire conspiracy targets him specifically because he's "the strongest man in the world." . He probably didn't notice anyone else in the temple because his head was too far up his own ass.

At this point I'd rather he would turn up to actually be the seventh, because that'd be better than the protagonist of the series being such an annoying fool with overblown ego.

Yeah, I think Adlet is in for some ego deflation. I do like having a protagonist with some clear personality problems, though

Mhm. I mean, I think his theory is more or less right, except for the bit where he thinks they're specifically trying to frame him. Like, if the Seventh is evil, she's probably not picky about who ends up taking the fall for her.

But it nice to see Adlet's persona starting to crack. Like, if the others find him now, grinning and laughing, they're going to think he's deranged. And I'm not totally certain they'd be wrong.

I think by now it is easy to see Adlet is not precisely what you could call sane. He may be smart, but insanity and genius are non exclusive.

Wait people still think Adlet's catchphrase is ego driven rather what it's really hinted as, a trauma? This isn't a typical guy who's full himself situation here especially since his sickly appearance in front Atro and later subsequent rigorous training suggest someone went through something terrible. His catchphrase sounds like it's more directed at himself than anyone else.

He doesn't deserve any of this either, he couldn't decisively reason his way out because he was put in the hotspot that was rapidly getting worse and lacked knowledge in how Saint of Seals magic worked hence his the wild theories. It's only natural that he started to panic.

edited 9th Aug '15 2:02:22 AM by IronMaw

I like Adlet. And I like his backstory. Why is it so much fun to see starving orphans get kicked?

I also think the black haired guy is the seventh, he's probably faking it to follow Nashitanya around.

There's a lot more talking than stabbing going on. Not quite what I expected coming in.

I'm rather suspicious of bunny girl, but I don't think she could have activated the barrier.

And yeah Adlet doesn't really seem arrogant to me. On a surface appraisal, sure, but he doesn't even seem to know what he means by it. He just repeats it for confidence.

Edit: Come to think of it, Adlet had the opportunity to kill Flamie but instead just stole her stuff. Shouldn't that also count as evidence in his favor?

edited 10th Aug '15 7:09:53 PM by Arha

So wait, the fiend just walked into the village, told them that the Demon God is going to win for sure this time (even though he always got beaten in the past) and that they should move to the Land of Howling Demons and serve him, and should kill anyone who objects...

And they were like "Yeah, that sounds reasonable, let's do what he said!"

Even for Peasant Logic (tm) this is too much.

Also, wasn't the whole Land poisonous to those without the petal seal? I though something about that was mentioned.

At this point I have no idea who might be the 7th. I mean, it could be Hans, but that seem almost to simple and convenient.

Maybe he brainwashed them.

Yeah, it was said that the land is poisonous to humans.

Actually, if three winged dude has mind control powers of some sort maybe Adlet did activate the barrier and just doesn't realize it?

As far as a fake goes, I'm most suspicious of Nashetanya. I don't trust the way she's trying to pin this on Hans.

Mind control! That'd be a twist!

Oh, so all those people aren't coming back.

What would be the point of trying to pin the blame on Hans if Adelt already makes a perfectly serviceable scapegoat?

Honestly i'd blame the writer's sudden backpedalling on the whole romantic tension they had going on for Naschetanya's general weirdness regarding our dumbass protag.

I think she does like him. Also, Hans seems much more dangerous.

I just can't think of a believable motive for Nashetanya to work for the Demon God.

I didn't question that, it's more like the writer is simultaneously ignoring that her crush exists to half-assedly progress the plot and explore Adlet's relationship with Flamie while also leaving Naschetanya's behaving as though none of THAT is happening. Tonally it's a confusing mess.

edited 15th Aug '15 5:02:04 PM by Recyth

^^ I can't either, but I can't think of one for anyone else either. I think this is just one of those cases where we figure out why someone is the culprit afterward. I mean, the only characters with real focus at this point are Adelt, Flamie, Nashetanya and maybe Hans. There's nothing about them to really be suspicious so far.

^ Wasn't exactly referring to you, so I should clarify that I didn't mean that romantically.

edited 15th Aug '15 5:13:48 PM by Arha

I seriously hope it's not Hans, and that Naschy's just accusing him because he led the charge against Adlet and also because he's an assassin and therefore a Bad Person™.

Because, I mean, if it was him, why would he act Adlet? Surely Adlet dying would be the last thing the seventh wants- the smart move would be to ignore him and feed the others a bunch of 'oh damn, he just barely managed to get away' stuff while you pick them off one by one and blame Adlet.

I don't think its Hans but he's just too damn sharp for the Seventh to leave him alive. If Hans isn't killed, he'll probably be the one to blow the Seventh's cover.

You know, I don't really believe it's her, but I kinda wish it would be Flamie, because it would be such a good twist.

what I mean is, both Adelt and most of the audience has discarded her as the possible seventh, but it's based more on gut feeling than any hard evidence. I find that pretty much everything about Flamie -her looks, her demeanor, her back story - is geared towards making her as much of a sympathy magnet as possible. Normally her status as a Half-Fiend and Brave Killer, would make her a prime suspect but because she's so sympathetic it gets treated as an red herring.

Also, usually when the hero decides to trust someone suspicious based on nothing else than their own feeling that they are actually a good person their belief is later validated.

But Imagine if all of that was subverted and it turned out that she was just playing on Adelt (and audiance) sympathies to have someone who would defend her and everything she said was a bunch of lies? It would be like a kick in the nuts. People would rage sure, but it would be such a memorable moment that would be talked about for years to come.

We absolutely sure Nachetanya has a crush on Adlet? There was something very, very weird and manipulative about her interactions with him in the early episodes.

Also, yeah, Hans has shown himself to be extremely smart and sneaky so far. He's a serious threat to the seventh in a way that poor, dumb Adlet isn't.

I don't think she loves him. She came off as very manipulative to me. If it wasn't for those scenes I probably wouldn't be suspecting her.

She might still like him as a person though.